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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2010/02/09/supernatural-the-song-remains-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-47133</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome. I&#039;ll cross my fingers for that Brazilian convention for you. You&#039;re right, Jared is less classically good looking, but that&#039;s part of his appeal to me. What you heard is right, he&#039;s nothing like Sam in person (except he does seem to be very smart, like Sam); he&#039;s bouncy and fun and smiley. I was afraid he would be intimidating, because he&#039;s so big, and famous, and of course handsome, but in my experience he&#039;s the exact opposite. He&#039;s warm and friendly and seems sincerely happy to see everyone, and not a bit intimidating. Which is all part of his charm. And which isn&#039;t to say that Jensen isn&#039;t any of those things, except maybe bouncy. He&#039;s just more reserved, and comes across a bit more...I don&#039;t want to say intimidating, but just more imposing maybe. That doesn&#039;t seem like the right word, but it will have to do.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re welcome. I&#039;ll cross my fingers for that Brazilian convention for you. You&#039;re right, Jared is less classically good looking, but that&#039;s part of his appeal to me. What you heard is right, he&#039;s nothing like Sam in person (except he does seem to be very smart, like Sam); he&#039;s bouncy and fun and smiley. I was afraid he would be intimidating, because he&#039;s so big, and famous, and of course handsome, but in my experience he&#039;s the exact opposite. He&#039;s warm and friendly and seems sincerely happy to see everyone, and not a bit intimidating. Which is all part of his charm. And which isn&#039;t to say that Jensen isn&#039;t any of those things, except maybe bouncy. He&#039;s just more reserved, and comes across a bit more&#8230;I don&#039;t want to say intimidating, but just more imposing maybe. That doesn&#039;t seem like the right word, but it will have to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!    I hope you&#039;re right about the Brazilian convention. I won&#039;t be TOO hopeful, but just a little won&#039;t hurt.   It would be great to meet other fans.    Yes, I know what you mean about the eyes. I have light brown eyes but many people told me they&#039;re green, to my surprise and amusement. Like you said, I suppose it has to do with light and clothing color.   I like the shape of his eyes too, like a cat&#039;s.  Overall, his face has an unsual, non-standard  type of beauty, while Jensen&#039;s is more classical.  I also heard he&#039;s always funny and smiley in person, unlike Sam who is usually somber.   Thanks for satisfying my little curiosity Whiskey. I hope to read your comments for My Bllody Valentine.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!    I hope you&#039;re right about the Brazilian convention. I won&#039;t be TOO hopeful, but just a little won&#039;t hurt.   It would be great to meet other fans.    Yes, I know what you mean about the eyes. I have light brown eyes but many people told me they&#039;re green, to my surprise and amusement. Like you said, I suppose it has to do with light and clothing color.   I like the shape of his eyes too, like a cat&#039;s.  Overall, his face has an unsual, non-standard  type of beauty, while Jensen&#039;s is more classical.  I also heard he&#039;s always funny and smiley in person, unlike Sam who is usually somber.   Thanks for satisfying my little curiosity Whiskey. I hope to read your comments for My Bllody Valentine.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2010/02/09/supernatural-the-song-remains-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-47130</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been very fortunate, and been able to take advantage of several of the fan conventions. Great fun, great people, always super busy though. They&#039;re branching out on the international convention front, and I believe there&#039;s an convention being scheduled in Argentina, or there was at one time, so I wouldn&#039;t have any trouble believing in a Brazilian convention. If there is one I hope you get to go! I wish every fan could get to go, not just to meet Jared and/or Jensen (though definitely for that reason too), but for the experience and meeting other fans.  
 
His eyes are green and brown. I believe they&#039;re green around the outer edge and brown around the pupil, but I could be wrong. So sometimes they look green, and sometimes they look brown onscreen. But if someone was writing it down, they might put brown. My eyes are a similar color, and it&#039;s not an uncommon coloring, and I usually get listed with brown eyes. Not by the police, mind you, since I&#039;ve never encountered them in that sort of setting, but by other people. His eyes look green more often than some with that color, which could be the clothing on set, or the cameras, I&#039;m not sure, because they also look that way in person, but that could be because he tends to wear Sam&#039;s clothing to cons, and there we go back to the clothing thing.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been very fortunate, and been able to take advantage of several of the fan <a title="conventions" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/category/real-life/conventions/">conventions</a>. Great fun, great people, always super busy though. They&#039;re branching out on the international convention front, and I believe there&#039;s an convention being scheduled in Argentina, or there was at one time, so I wouldn&#039;t have any trouble believing in a Brazilian convention. If there is one I hope you get to go! I wish every fan could get to go, not just to meet Jared and/or Jensen (though definitely for that reason too), but for the experience and meeting other fans.  </p>
<p>His eyes are green and brown. I believe they&#039;re green around the outer edge and brown around the pupil, but I could be wrong. So sometimes they look green, and sometimes they look brown onscreen. But if someone was writing it down, they might put brown. My eyes are a similar color, and it&#039;s not an uncommon coloring, and I usually get listed with brown eyes. Not by the police, mind you, since I&#039;ve never encountered them in that sort of setting, but by other people. His eyes look green more often than some with that color, which could be the clothing on set, or the cameras, I&#039;m not sure, because they also look that way in person, but that could be because he tends to wear Sam&#039;s clothing to cons, and there we go back to the clothing thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whiskey, aren&#039;t you a lucky girl? Right now, I&#039;m very envious (in a positive way). :)  I heard rumours some time ago that there could be a convention in Brazil. Supernatural is very popular here. So I&#039;m hopeful. A girl can dream, right?   Oh, BTW, I have a question. Police records in the Show describe Sam as having brown eyes. But unless my screen is deceiving me, Jared&#039;s eyes are clearly green.  
Is that so? 
 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whiskey, aren&#039;t you a lucky girl? Right now, I&#039;m very envious (in a positive way). <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I heard rumours some time ago that there could be a convention in Brazil. <a title="Supernatural" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/category/on-screen/current-tv/supernatural/">Supernatural</a> is very popular here. So I&#039;m hopeful. A girl can dream, right?   Oh, BTW, I have a question. Police records in the Show describe Sam as having brown eyes. But unless my screen is deceiving me, Jared&#039;s eyes are clearly green.<br />
Is that so?</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He swears up and down that he&#039;s 6&#039;4 (I know, I asked), but he&#039;s lying. Sorry Jared, but it&#039;s true. He&#039;s more like 6&#039;5 or possibly 6&#039;6. It&#039;s hard to tell because he&#039;s a skilled sloucher. I&#039;m 5&#039;7 and I don&#039;t quite clear his chin. He&#039;s a very big guy. I got to stand in the photo op room for a little while at one con, and I got to watch him scrunch himself down to take pictures with shorter people. It was very entertaining and cute. 
 
I think Jensen is a little closer to 6&#039;1. As I said, I&#039;m 5&#039;7 and he seems to be about 6&quot; taller than I am in the one picture I have with him. He&#039;s definitely a tall guy in his own right, but it&#039;s hard to tell that when you constantly see him next to Jared. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He swears up and down that he&#039;s 6&#039;4 (I know, I asked), but he&#039;s lying. Sorry Jared, but it&#039;s true. He&#039;s more like 6&#039;5 or possibly 6&#039;6. It&#039;s hard to tell because he&#039;s a skilled sloucher. I&#039;m 5&#039;7 and I don&#039;t quite clear his chin. He&#039;s a very big guy. I got to stand in the photo op room for a little while at one con, and I got to watch him scrunch himself down to take pictures with shorter people. It was very entertaining and cute. </p>
<p>I think Jensen is a little closer to 6&#039;1. As I said, I&#039;m 5&#039;7 and he seems to be about 6&quot; taller than I am in the one picture I have with him. He&#039;s definitely a tall guy in his own right, but it&#039;s hard to tell that when you constantly see him next to Jared.</p>
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		<title>By: katya</title>
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		<dc:creator>katya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How tall is Padalecki?  Every source I check has him at 6&#039; 4&quot;, but Ackles is reported to be 6&#039; 2&quot; and, I swear, when they stand side-by-side, Padalecki seems much taller than only 2 inches. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I love seeing him up next to shorter people.  He&#039;s massive.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How tall is <a title="Padalecki" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/padalecki/">Padalecki</a>?  Every source I check has him at 6&#039; 4&quot;, but Ackles is reported to be 6&#039; 2&quot; and, I swear, when they stand side-by-side, Padalecki seems much taller than only 2 inches. </p>
<p>I love seeing him up next to shorter people.  He&#039;s massive.</p>
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		<title>By: Clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the review.  Had to watch the show online, so was able to pause and replay.  You caught a lot of what I noticed (and fleshed it out very well).  One thing...I don&#039;t think you mentioned that Sam, in addition to looking to Dean after being stabbed, said &quot;Dean!&quot; as he died on the floor.  It sounds like a &#039;dughghgh&#039; but I replayed it a few times.   I think it&#039;s part of the underlying theme that despite their separation of late, Dean and Sam are always brothers...and it&#039;s especially apt in the context of this episode.  Mary won&#039;t give up John, even to save the world, and neither will Dean give up Sam. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the review.  Had to watch the show online, so was able to pause and replay.  You caught a lot of what I noticed (and fleshed it out very well).  One thing&#8230;I don&#39;t think you mentioned that Sam, in addition to looking to Dean after being stabbed, said &quot;Dean!&quot; as he died on the floor.  It sounds like a &#39;dughghgh&#39; but I replayed it a few times.   I think it&#39;s part of the underlying theme that despite their separation of late, Dean and Sam are always brothers&#8230;and it&#39;s especially apt in the context of this episode.  Mary won&#39;t give up John, even to save the world, and neither will Dean give up Sam.</p>
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		<title>By: katya</title>
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		<dc:creator>katya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad Anna is dead.  Happy Dean is still saying &quot;no&quot;.  Weepy Sam was lovely.  Cass was pretty cool and he didn&#039;t steal our boys&#039; screen time.  Oh, and Mary&#039;s Farrah &quot;do&quot; was spot on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad Anna is dead.  Happy Dean is still saying &quot;no&quot;.  Weepy Sam was lovely.  Cass was pretty cool and he didn&#039;t steal our boys&#039; screen time.  Oh, and Mary&#039;s Farrah &quot;do&quot; was spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sylvia 
 
Sorry about not numbering my list this time.  :-)    
 
Yes, we did hear the &#039;Love&#039; word in Sam Interrupted but I mentioned it this time because it came from the heart and I feel Sam meant it down to his very soul. He was coherent and lucid and not &#039;stoned out of his mind&#039;.  So, to me it was the first time I actually heard it.  And he said &#039;I love him&#039;.  I am so happy you included his entire speech because as I read it I replayed the scene in my head.  Oh, the way he said &#039;I love him&#039; just slayed me. You could see relief and acceptance and forgiveness and pride in his face as he uttered those words.  I am glad we did hear the &#039;love&#039; word in Sam Interrupted but you know how much adding the ya on the end bothered me.  I don&#039;t know...it just did not set well with me.  But, I do like Whiskey&#039;s comments below that it could have the accent. 
 
Yes, the impala scene is one I will remember forever. You know, I am sure the had to redo that scene many times. I bet we see it in the funny out-takes for season 5.  :-)  Knowing that Jared and Jensen have a great sense of humor I can only imagine what transpired in the Impala! 
 
You know how I feel about Dean&#039;s use of the word &quot;Sammy&quot;.  I have commented on it many times in the past. So, when he uttered &#039;Sammy&quot; after Anna stabbed him....I just melted.  I know that sounds strange because Sam died again but I can&#039;t help it.  It is Dean&#039;s way of saying &#039;I love you, little brother&#039;. And, do you notice Sam doesn&#039;t correct him any more when Dean calls him &#039;Sammy&quot;?  And, I just adore Dean when he goes into protective mode.....&quot;FIX HIM&quot;. Yes he was very demanding.   
 
I do agree with you about &#039;too many angels and such&#039;.   And, you are right...there was so much Winchester Family goodness to be had that I looked past all that.   
 
See ya next week. 
Joan </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sylvia </p>
<p>Sorry about not numbering my list this time.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />     </p>
<p>Yes, we did hear the &#039;Love&#039; word in Sam Interrupted but I mentioned it this time because it came from the heart and I feel Sam meant it down to his very soul. He was coherent and lucid and not &#039;stoned out of his mind&#039;.  So, to me it was the first time I actually heard it.  And he said &#039;I love him&#039;.  I am so happy you included his entire speech because as I read it I replayed the scene in my head.  Oh, the way he said &#039;I love him&#039; just slayed me. You could see relief and acceptance and forgiveness and pride in his face as he uttered those words.  I am glad we did hear the &#039;love&#039; word in Sam Interrupted but you know how much adding the ya on the end bothered me.  I don&#039;t know&#8230;it just did not set well with me.  But, I do like Whiskey&#039;s comments below that it could have the accent. </p>
<p>Yes, the impala scene is one I will remember forever. You know, I am sure the had to redo that scene many times. I bet we see it in the funny out-takes for season 5.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Knowing that Jared and Jensen have a great sense of humor I can only imagine what transpired in the Impala! </p>
<p>You know how I feel about Dean&#039;s use of the word &quot;Sammy&quot;.  I have commented on it many times in the past. So, when he uttered &#039;Sammy&quot; after Anna stabbed him&#8230;.I just melted.  I know that sounds strange because Sam died again but I can&#039;t help it.  It is Dean&#039;s way of saying &#039;I love you, little brother&#039;. And, do you notice Sam doesn&#039;t correct him any more when Dean calls him &#039;Sammy&quot;?  And, I just adore Dean when he goes into protective mode&#8230;..&quot;FIX HIM&quot;. Yes he was very demanding.   </p>
<p>I do agree with you about &#039;too many angels and such&#039;.   And, you are right&#8230;there was so much Winchester Family goodness to be had that I looked past all that.   </p>
<p>See ya next week.<br />
Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joan   Dean actually said the word &quot;love&quot; in All Hell Breaks Loose II. He told the dead Sammy that he always lets down people he loves, first Dad and then Sammy. So...  But I agree that there is not enough use of this precious little word. : ) 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joan   Dean actually said the word &quot;love&quot; in All Hell Breaks Loose II. He told the dead Sammy that he always lets down people he loves, first Dad and then Sammy. So&#8230;  But I agree that there is not enough use of this precious little word. : )</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not Joan, obviously, LOL. But I did have a thought about that &quot;ya&quot; after love in Sam, Interrupted. I meant to comment to your review on that, but that was, well, let&#039;s just say a bad week for me, and I got sidetracked. 
 
Now this is all purely conjecture, and for all I know the line as written in the script was &quot;And I still love ya&quot;. But, despite the fact that both Ackles and Padalecki have pretty much eliminated whatever accent they might have acquired growing up in Texas, sometimes the accent escapes. I&#039;m a Southern girl, born, bred and raised in the Deep South, but I don&#039;t have much of an accent. I tend to take on the accent and speech patterns of whoever I&#039;m talking to, be they Canadian, Scottish, German, doesn&#039;t matter. But, when I am very tired, or drunk (not that that ever happens *looks innocent*) the accent appears with a vengeance.  
 
So, my theory is, that in slurring Sam&#039;s words, and generally trying to sound drunk/stoned, the accent escaped and Jared said &quot;ya&quot; instead of you. Part of the reason I think that is because I didn&#039;t even notice that he said &quot;ya&quot;, and certainly didn&#039;t think it cheapened anything of the moment, and I think the reason I didn&#039;t notice it is because I&#039;m used to hearing you shortened that way on a regular basis. But like I said, it&#039;s all just a theory and I have no idea what the original script said. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not Joan, obviously, LOL. But I did have a thought about that &quot;ya&quot; after love in Sam, Interrupted. I meant to comment to your review on that, but that was, well, let&#039;s just say a bad week for me, and I got sidetracked. </p>
<p>Now this is all purely conjecture, and for all I know the line as written in the script was &quot;And I still love ya&quot;. But, despite the fact that both Ackles and <a title="Padalecki" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/padalecki/">Padalecki</a> have pretty much eliminated whatever accent they might have acquired growing up in Texas, sometimes the accent escapes. I&#039;m a Southern girl, born, bred and raised in the Deep South, but I don&#039;t have much of an accent. I tend to take on the accent and speech patterns of whoever I&#039;m talking to, be they Canadian, Scottish, German, doesn&#039;t matter. But, when I am very tired, or drunk (not that that ever happens *looks innocent*) the accent appears with a vengeance.  </p>
<p>So, my theory is, that in slurring Sam&#039;s words, and generally trying to sound drunk/stoned, the accent escaped and Jared said &quot;ya&quot; instead of you. Part of the reason I think that is because I didn&#039;t even notice that he said &quot;ya&quot;, and certainly didn&#039;t think it cheapened anything of the moment, and I think the reason I didn&#039;t notice it is because I&#039;m used to hearing you shortened that way on a regular basis. But like I said, it&#039;s all just a theory and I have no idea what the original script said.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylvia   When Sam was stabbed and he gave DeanTHAT look we talked about the other day, Dean yelled &quot;Sammy!!!&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvia   When Sam was stabbed and he gave DeanTHAT look we talked about the other day, Dean yelled &quot;Sammy!!!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whiskey, I agree with you that Castiel was being sincere in his desire to protect Sam. He even lied to Sam (a well-intentioned lie this time) that killing him wouldn&#039;t stop Lucifer. Truth is that killing darling little Sammy could have been a good plan after all (from the angels point of view, not from mine) and my guess is that Castiel was tempted at first. But he ended up making the honorable decision and kindly spared Sam of his true opinion. But I also agree with Silvia that we had seen no evidence of this friendshp until this moment and it really needs some treatment from the writers to become belivable. A good start would be an honest conversation between the two of them, where Castiel would admit to &quot;helping&quot; Sam kill Lilith and , why not, apologize to Sam for his past behavior.  I want to like him. It&#039;s easier if I do because by the looks of it he&#039;s not going anywhere anytime soon.  But I need the help of a good writing. Above all, I wish they stop that rather annoying habit of his saving the boys at the last moment like the big hero of the day. Why can&#039;t the boys save each other like they always did and like we always loved to see them do? Seriously.____ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whiskey, I agree with you that Castiel was being sincere in his desire to protect Sam. He even lied to Sam (a well-intentioned lie this time) that killing him wouldn&#039;t stop Lucifer. Truth is that killing darling little Sammy could have been a good plan after all (from the angels point of view, not from mine) and my guess is that Castiel was tempted at first. But he ended up making the honorable decision and kindly spared Sam of his true opinion. But I also agree with Silvia that we had seen no evidence of this friendshp until this moment and it really needs some treatment from the writers to become belivable. A good start would be an honest conversation between the two of them, where Castiel would admit to &quot;helping&quot; Sam kill Lilith and , why not, apologize to Sam for his past behavior.  I want to like him. It&#039;s easier if I do because by the looks of it he&#039;s not going anywhere anytime soon.  But I need the help of a good writing. Above all, I wish they stop that rather annoying habit of his saving the boys at the last moment like the big hero of the day. Why can&#039;t the boys save each other like they always did and like we always loved to see them do? Seriously.____</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I totally can&#039;t do this if there are no numbers!! But I&#039;ll take them as given.... 
 
5.  We did hear the word &quot;love&quot; in Sam, Interrupted; but are you discounting that because Sam was doped up and said &quot;ya&quot; after it?  
 
8.  I think I loved the scene in the Impala with the four of them more than life itself. Even Sam and Dean must have realized what a unique opportunity that was. AND The John-Almost-The-Dad yelled at them too! 
 
12. and 13.  I didn&#039;t make nearly enough of Dean&#039;s remark to Mike to &quot;Fix him!!!&quot; But I loved his impetuous and demanding tone, cause he knows full well that Mike can do it and Mike knows that if Mike doesn&#039;t it&#039;ll be cold day in hell that Dean does ANYTHING for Mike. Plus the &quot;Sammy&quot; reference, I swear so many people are mentioning it to me, but I missed it! I&#039;ll have to go back and watch when he says it.  
 
19. Ditto that. They always look marvelous and get better looking all the time! 
 
I think overall most people liked the ep better than I did. I liked the concept and I liked bits of it, but there were too many angels and such. I prefer the family Winchester by themselves. : D 
 
Until next time, Joan!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I totally can&#039;t do this if there are no numbers!! But I&#039;ll take them as given&#8230;. </p>
<p>5.  We did hear the word &quot;love&quot; in Sam, Interrupted; but are you discounting that because Sam was doped up and said &quot;ya&quot; after it?  </p>
<p>8.  I think I loved the scene in the Impala with the four of them more than life itself. Even Sam and Dean must have realized what a unique opportunity that was. AND The John-Almost-The-Dad yelled at them too! </p>
<p>12. and 13.  I didn&#039;t make nearly enough of Dean&#039;s remark to Mike to &quot;Fix him!!!&quot; But I loved his impetuous and demanding tone, cause he knows full well that Mike can do it and Mike knows that if Mike doesn&#039;t it&#039;ll be cold day in hell that Dean does ANYTHING for Mike. Plus the &quot;Sammy&quot; reference, I swear so many people are mentioning it to me, but I missed it! I&#039;ll have to go back and watch when he says it.  </p>
<p>19. Ditto that. They always look marvelous and get better looking all the time! </p>
<p>I think overall most people liked the ep better than I did. I liked the concept and I liked bits of it, but there were too many angels and such. I prefer the family Winchester by themselves. : D </p>
<p>Until next time, Joan!</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylvia 
 
Thank you so much for this fabulous review!  I am reveling in all of the goodness again, that was this epy!   
 
Oh Show!  Thank you for making me a happy fan girl again.  The previous two episodes were just okay.  But, this one was exquisite in every way possible. 
 
The things I loved: 
 
The scene where Sam forgave his dad.   Sam really needed to say those words out loud and I was so glad we finally heard them.  He was sincere and open and brutally honest.  It was touching. 
 
The scene with Mary and Dean when he told her the truth.   
 
Darn the Winchesters!!!!!!!!  They made me cry twice!  But that is okay because I felt something while watching this episode.   
 
The scene where Sam met his young parents.  Priceless! 
 
We finally heard the &#8216;LOVE&#8217; word. 
 
Young John displaying &#8216;shades of The Dad&#8217;. 
 
The final scene in the nursery.  Mary uttered those famous words.   Hearing her say them was so poignant. 
 
The scene in the impala!  Snort!!!!!!!!!!  That was so freaking hilarious I almost spit out my water. 
 
We finally met Michael. 
 
&#8220;I don&#8217;t understand that reference&#8221; 
 
&#8220;Team Free Will&#8221; 
 
&#8220;Fix him!!!!!!!!&#8221; 
 
&#8220;Sammy&#8221;&#8230;.Oh Dean!  That one word speaks volumes.  It means you have forgiven your little brother.   
 
John finding out the truth about Mary and her family. 
 
I absolutely love the actress who plays Mary.   
 
Young John was much better this time around.  He nailed every scene he was in this time; 
especially when he was Michael. 
 
It is a blood line.  How cool. 
 
&#8220;Free Will versus Destiny&#8221; 
 
Jared and Jensen looked especially yummy in this episode.  I so love the show in HD. 
 
Oh how I adore this &#8216;SHOW&#8217; when it is firing on all cylinders.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong..even on it&#8217;s worst day this show is miles above any show currently airing on television.  But, the last two episodes left me feeling empty.  I enjoyed the asylum episode more than I did the body swap episode but neither one really left an impression on me.  But this one did.  It was superb; delicate; intense; exacting and most of all&#8230;.it tied neatly into the Apocolyspe story-line.   
 
Take care, 
Joan 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvia </p>
<p>Thank you so much for this fabulous review!  I am reveling in all of the goodness again, that was this epy!   </p>
<p>Oh Show!  Thank you for making me a happy fan girl again.  The previous two episodes were just okay.  But, this one was exquisite in every way possible. </p>
<p>The things I loved: </p>
<p>The scene where Sam forgave his dad.   Sam really needed to say those words out loud and I was so glad we finally heard them.  He was sincere and open and brutally honest.  It was touching. </p>
<p>The scene with Mary and Dean when he told her the truth.   </p>
<p>Darn the Winchesters!!!!!!!!  They made me cry twice!  But that is okay because I felt something while watching this episode.   </p>
<p>The scene where Sam met his young parents.  Priceless! </p>
<p>We finally heard the &lsquo;LOVE&rsquo; word. </p>
<p>Young John displaying &lsquo;shades of The Dad&rsquo;. </p>
<p>The final scene in the nursery.  Mary uttered those famous words.   Hearing her say them was so poignant. </p>
<p>The scene in the impala!  Snort!!!!!!!!!!  That was so freaking hilarious I almost spit out my water. </p>
<p>We finally met Michael. </p>
<p>&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t understand that reference&rdquo; </p>
<p>&ldquo;Team Free Will&rdquo; </p>
<p>&ldquo;Fix him!!!!!!!!&rdquo; </p>
<p>&ldquo;Sammy&rdquo;&hellip;.Oh Dean!  That one word speaks volumes.  It means you have forgiven your little brother.   </p>
<p>John finding out the truth about Mary and her family. </p>
<p>I absolutely love the actress who plays Mary.   </p>
<p>Young John was much better this time around.  He nailed every scene he was in this time;<br />
especially when he was Michael. </p>
<p>It is a blood line.  How cool. </p>
<p>&ldquo;Free Will versus Destiny&rdquo; </p>
<p>Jared and Jensen looked especially yummy in this episode.  I so love the show in HD. </p>
<p>Oh how I adore this &lsquo;SHOW&rsquo; when it is firing on all cylinders.  Don&rsquo;t get me wrong..even on it&rsquo;s worst day this show is miles above any show currently airing on <a title="television" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/television/">television</a>.  But, the last two episodes left me feeling empty.  I enjoyed the asylum episode more than I did the body swap episode but neither one really left an impression on me.  But this one did.  It was superb; delicate; intense; exacting and most of all&hellip;.it tied neatly into the Apocolyspe story-line.   </p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheldon is awesome. I love it when they cut him off and he starts twitching and fidgeting like he&#039;s going to explode until they let him say whatever it is. That show just cracks me up. Especially the Kwipke thing. 
 
I was able to forgive the massive amounts of Anna (I never could stand her either) only because she died. And it would seem that she&#039;s not only merely dead, she&#039;s really most sincerely dead. So I can let it go. This time. If they bring her back again I&#039;ll scream. 
 
Hmmm. You have a point. But Castiel seemed sincere, to me at least, when he said Sam is his friend, and mentioned how it might be too late, but that&#039;s how it was. I think he&#039;s realized that he personally screwed up, and that Sam is paying most of the price for it. Now if he turns around and tears into Sam again I reserve the right to hate Castiel again. But until then I can tolerate him, so long as he isn&#039;t over used. 
 
You&#039;re so right, he let her boss him. I&#039;d imagine that dynamic remained into the later years of their marriage. I wonder if that&#039;s part of what shaped Dean&#039;s outlook on women. He doesn&#039;t seem to mind strong-willed women either. And I&#039;m with you. I would be more than open to seeing Amy and Matt again. They&#039;re awesome. 
 
No problem on the pointing out. It just struck me how good, and subtle, Jared was. He really rocked this one on a very quiet, but VERY effective level. And looked good doing it, too. Ahem. 
 
I am so with you on the writers not being that together on where they&#039;re going. I wish they would GET that together, but I&#039;m not gonna hold my breath. I don&#039;t look good in that shade of blue. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheldon is awesome. I love it when they cut him off and he starts twitching and fidgeting like he&#039;s going to explode until they let him say whatever it is. That show just cracks me up. Especially the Kwipke thing. </p>
<p>I was able to forgive the massive amounts of Anna (I never could stand her either) only because she died. And it would seem that she&#039;s not only merely dead, she&#039;s really most sincerely dead. So I can let it go. This time. If they bring her back again I&#039;ll scream. </p>
<p>Hmmm. You have a point. But Castiel seemed sincere, to me at least, when he said Sam is his friend, and mentioned how it might be too late, but that&#039;s how it was. I think he&#039;s realized that he personally screwed up, and that Sam is paying most of the price for it. Now if he turns around and tears into Sam again I reserve the right to hate Castiel again. But until then I can tolerate him, so long as he isn&#039;t over used. </p>
<p>You&#039;re so right, he let her boss him. I&#039;d imagine that dynamic remained into the later years of their marriage. I wonder if that&#039;s part of what shaped Dean&#039;s outlook on women. He doesn&#039;t seem to mind strong-willed women either. And I&#039;m with you. I would be more than open to seeing Amy and Matt again. They&#039;re awesome. </p>
<p>No problem on the pointing out. It just struck me how good, and subtle, Jared was. He really rocked this one on a very quiet, but VERY effective level. And looked good doing it, too. Ahem. </p>
<p>I am so with you on the writers not being that together on where they&#039;re going. I wish they would GET that together, but I&#039;m not gonna hold my breath. I don&#039;t look good in that shade of blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whiskey, do you mean you have seen the man in person?&quot; 
 
I have. More than once. He&#039;s adorable and super sweet and full of energy and believe it or not, even taller than you think. And his hair is lighter than Sam&#039;s appears. And he&#039;s tall. Really tall. Did I mention that? 
 
&quot;His hair does seem to change color, depending on the light. And I never thought about filters&quot; 
 
I only mentioned filters because I know they used to use them, and probably still do, and it would account for some of the darkened and/or washed out colors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Whiskey, do you mean you have seen the man in person?&quot; </p>
<p>I have. More than once. He&#039;s adorable and super sweet and full of energy and believe it or not, even taller than you think. And his hair is lighter than Sam&#039;s appears. And he&#039;s tall. Really tall. Did I mention that? </p>
<p>&quot;His hair does seem to change color, depending on the light. And I never thought about filters&quot; </p>
<p>I only mentioned filters because I know they used to use them, and probably still do, and it would account for some of the darkened and/or washed out colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sure did! But then, how am I supposed to remember ALL the good parts when there are SO MANY? No kidding, I don&#039;t mean to objectify our boys,  who besides being &quot;stunning looking men&quot; are stunning actors too. We&#039;re so blessed to have such a combination of handosomeness and talent in two versions! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure did! But then, how am I supposed to remember ALL the good parts when there are SO MANY? No kidding, I don&#039;t mean to objectify our boys,  who besides being &quot;stunning looking men&quot; are stunning actors too. We&#039;re so blessed to have such a combination of handosomeness and talent in two versions!</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot his thighs. And you are not annoying. I too have a thing for Polish eyes because growing up my best friend was 100% Polish and her brothers were very hunky to me. And when I see that rather distinctive slant, I get all weak in the knees.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot his thighs. And you are not annoying. I too have a thing for Polish eyes because growing up my best friend was 100% Polish and her brothers were very hunky to me. And when I see that rather distinctive slant, I get all weak in the knees.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
First up, I love Sheldon!! (And Leonard and the rest of the gangt!) It cracks me up each and every time Kwipke goes up against Sheldon! My sister is pretty sure that there&#039;s some meaning behind the fact that Sheldon wears a t-shirt with a pink ray gun on it every time Kwipke is in the ep. I told her she was out of her mind.  
 
I don&#039;t know if I love the ep as much as you did (too much Anna Banana, you see) but I did love the parts I loved very much, and yes, they put me in mind of the old fashioned Supernatural, that I used to love when I was a girl. I thought In the Beginning was better (with the exception of the Samlessness abounding in that one) simply because the idea was so fresh and new, you couldn&#039;t predict what was around the corner. And the element of being in the 70&#039;s was presented more, by way of visual jokes and cues that made it more interesting. This time, they just drove a pinto station wagon past the camera and called it good.  
 
I agree with you about liking the Soap Angel for standing up for Sam, but since when have the two of them been friends? Naturally my mind assumed that the Soap Angel was standing up for Sam because he knew it would kill DEAN if anything happened to Sam. So the result is the same, but the motivation, to me, is suspect.  
 
 
Matt and Amy were fabulous, like you say and they certainly sold me on a young John and Mary. I especially liked it how Mary wore the pants in the family so to speak, bossing John around and him liking it. John&#039;s character seems strong and manly enough not to mind or be bothered, and maybe even enjoy it once in a while, so nice turnaround there. I certainly wouldn&#039;t mind seeing more of either of them, but especially Matt as John since I would adore more John in any guise.  
 
You make such a good point. Padalecki might not have had tons of dialog, but then, he didn&#039;t need them to get his point across did he. I wish I&#039;d made more of this in my review, he certainly does deserve tons of credit for that. Thank you for pointing it out. (While I was watching his scene with John, I was strung with nerves on his behalf.) As for Jensen, he&#039;s always good.  
 
As for free will and the angels, I hesitate to speculate. I doubt that the writers have it that much together to have determined the angels&#039; motivations. They want to rule the world and have God to themselves and that&#039;s about it. By hook or by crook or by killing darling little Sammy, they mean to have their way!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First up, I love Sheldon!! (And Leonard and the rest of the gangt!) It cracks me up each and every time Kwipke goes up against Sheldon! My sister is pretty sure that there&#039;s some meaning behind the fact that Sheldon wears a t-shirt with a pink ray gun on it every time Kwipke is in the ep. I told her she was out of her mind.  </p>
<p>I don&#039;t know if I love the ep as much as you did (too much Anna Banana, you see) but I did love the parts I loved very much, and yes, they put me in mind of the old fashioned <a title="Supernatural" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/category/on-screen/current-tv/supernatural/">Supernatural</a>, that I used to love when I was a girl. I thought In the Beginning was better (with the exception of the Samlessness abounding in that one) simply because the idea was so fresh and new, you couldn&#039;t predict what was around the corner. And the element of being in the 70&#039;s was presented more, by way of visual jokes and cues that made it more interesting. This time, they just drove a pinto station wagon past the camera and called it good.  </p>
<p>I agree with you about liking the Soap Angel for standing up for Sam, but since when have the two of them been friends? Naturally my mind assumed that the Soap Angel was standing up for Sam because he knew it would kill DEAN if anything happened to Sam. So the result is the same, but the motivation, to me, is suspect.  </p>
<p>Matt and Amy were fabulous, like you say and they certainly sold me on a young John and Mary. I especially liked it how Mary wore the pants in the family so to speak, bossing John around and him liking it. John&#039;s character seems strong and manly enough not to mind or be bothered, and maybe even enjoy it once in a while, so nice turnaround there. I certainly wouldn&#039;t mind seeing more of either of them, but especially Matt as John since I would adore more John in any guise.  </p>
<p>You make such a good point. <a title="Padalecki" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/padalecki/">Padalecki</a> might not have had tons of dialog, but then, he didn&#039;t need them to get his point across did he. I wish I&#039;d made more of this in my review, he certainly does deserve tons of credit for that. Thank you for pointing it out. (While I was watching his scene with John, I was strung with nerves on his behalf.) As for Jensen, he&#039;s always good.  </p>
<p>As for free will and the angels, I hesitate to speculate. I doubt that the writers have it that much together to have determined the angels&#039; motivations. They want to rule the world and have God to themselves and that&#039;s about it. By hook or by crook or by killing darling little Sammy, they mean to have their way!</p>
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