Comments on: When You Watch Hulu, The Terrorists Win http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/ "Half an hour. One bag and the guns. I'll make pancakes." Sarah Connor Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:51:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Teresa http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33710 Teresa Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:05:02 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33710 The thing is, it DOESN'T really hurt TV. It only helps it. I know so many people who have caught up with shows on Hulu, gotten hooked, and started watching them on network TV once they've been pulled in by the story. I've seen this happen in the case of Fox shows like Fringe and Dollhouse, where people watch a bunch of episodes in a row, realize they love the show, then start watching it on TV. Hell, I watched season 1 of Sarah Connor Chronicles on Hulu, loved it, and started watching season 2 because of it. It wasn't until the third or fourth episode of season 2 that I watched - on network television - that I realized the show was crap and stopped watching. Hulu had nothing to do with that decision. Crappy storytelling did. The thing is, it DOESN'T really hurt TV. It only helps it. I know so many people who have caught up with shows on Hulu, gotten hooked, and started watching them on network TV once they've been pulled in by the story. I've seen this happen in the case of Fox shows like Fringe and Dollhouse, where people watch a bunch of episodes in a row, realize they love the show, then start watching it on TV.

Hell, I watched season 1 of Sarah Connor Chronicles on Hulu, loved it, and started watching season 2 because of it. It wasn't until the third or fourth episode of season 2 that I watched – on network television – that I realized the show was crap and stopped watching. Hulu had nothing to do with that decision. Crappy storytelling did.

]]> By: lilacsigil http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33707 lilacsigil Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:25:59 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33707 And then there's all of us outside the US who can't watch our shows in a timely fashion so we get them illegally (and I would pay for them, quite happily). But I'm not waiting 18 months for it. I support the shows by watching illegally then legally buying the DVDs from US retailers. I know that doesn't give them upfront cash, but it'll have to do. And then there's all of us outside the US who can't watch our shows in a timely fashion so we get them illegally (and I would pay for them, quite happily). But I'm not waiting 18 months for it. I support the shows by watching illegally then legally buying the DVDs from US retailers. I know that doesn't give them upfront cash, but it'll have to do.

]]> By: AlphaGirl http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33686 AlphaGirl Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:51:06 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33686 It is very sticky. I really wouldn't mind paying for television content online when the time comes - I get that it takes money to produce and everyone involved certainly needs to be paid for their work up front. I suppose I get the impression that the industry is blaming viewers for the industry's own lack of vision. It is very sticky. I really wouldn't mind paying for television content online when the time comes – I get that it takes money to produce and everyone involved certainly needs to be paid for their work up front. I suppose I get the impression that the industry is blaming viewers for the industry's own lack of vision.

]]> By: jeffrey386 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33685 jeffrey386 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:40:00 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33685 It's a sticky subject. What annoys me/makes me nervous, is that a lot of people see the internet as a place that no one should own, and as one that should not have rules. While I understand that to a degree, I believe every system needs to be mediated some way. Imagining the Internet as some sort of wild west is cute, but to not have oversight over the medium that will house most of our economic transactions seems slightly ludicrous to me. Maybe it's impossible. I don't know, but like tv shows, and I hope whoever makes them can find a way to pay for them... It's a sticky subject. What annoys me/makes me nervous, is that a lot of people see the internet as a place that no one should own, and as one that should not have rules. While I understand that to a degree, I believe every system needs to be mediated some way. Imagining the Internet as some sort of wild west is cute, but to not have oversight over the medium that will house most of our economic transactions seems slightly ludicrous to me. Maybe it's impossible. I don't know, but like tv shows, and I hope whoever makes them can find a way to pay for them…

]]> By: jeffrey386 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33681 jeffrey386 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:33:25 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33681 I don't think some of this arguments here are that fair. For instance, drawing a line between cable and network doesn't quite work . Many cable networks are owned by the bigger networks, for example: Syfy is owned NBC. Also, while there's a glut of boring doctor/lawyer/cop shows on networks, there have also been great shows with huge buggets that need to be paid for somehow, if you want them to exist ie LOST, the first season of Heroes. Digital distribution, especially the free kind, really really hurts TV. One reasons shows have been able to have awesome production budgets in this previous TV golden age was becauase people paid actually did pay for TV contet, they bought DVD's. There was consumer assumption that people would buy content if they wanted to own it, not to sample it on TV everyweek. Also, people haven't proved willing to pay for content. They've actually proved the opposite, just look at what happened to the music industry. I agree that the studio system is full of glut, and that Hollywood should rethink its buisness plan by trimming the fat, but to say that digital content doesn't present a threat to everyone, is wrong imo. People are very willing to stream or download content for free, and this stuff is extremely expensive to make. A lot of people talk about Dr. Horrible as if Joss Whedon is some kind of internet visionary, but they leave out a key detail, Joss Whedon didn't need a distrbution medium or marketing to entice his viewers because he had a built in loya fan base eager to purchase his material, as a means of supporting him. Had Dr. Horrible been made by random people, I bet folks would be much less inclined to buy it. Also, I watch, and I'm not some kind of revolutionary here, HD nternet content on my plasma screen all the time. All it takes is are two little wire. It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to expect TV's with direct internet feeds used as much as their tradition TV feeds becoming common place. I don't think some of this arguments here are that fair. For instance, drawing a line between cable and network doesn't quite work . Many cable networks are owned by the bigger networks, for example: Syfy is owned NBC. Also, while there's a glut of boring doctor/lawyer/cop shows on networks, there have also been great shows with huge buggets that need to be paid for somehow, if you want them to exist ie LOST, the first season of Heroes. Digital distribution, especially the free kind, really really hurts TV. One reasons shows have been able to have awesome production budgets in this previous TV golden age was becauase people paid actually did pay for TV contet, they bought DVD's. There was consumer assumption that people would buy content if they wanted to own it, not to sample it on TV everyweek. Also, people haven't proved willing to pay for content. They've actually proved the opposite, just look at what happened to the music industry. I agree that the studio system is full of glut, and that Hollywood should rethink its buisness plan by trimming the fat, but to say that digital content doesn't present a threat to everyone, is wrong imo. People are very willing to stream or download content for free, and this stuff is extremely expensive to make. A lot of people talk about Dr. Horrible as if Joss Whedon is some kind of internet visionary, but they leave out a key detail, Joss Whedon didn't need a distrbution medium or marketing to entice his viewers because he had a built in loya fan base eager to purchase his material, as a means of supporting him. Had Dr. Horrible been made by random people, I bet folks would be much less inclined to buy it. Also, I watch, and I'm not some kind of revolutionary here, HD nternet content on my plasma screen all the time. All it takes is are two little wire. It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to expect TV's with direct internet feeds used as much as their tradition TV feeds becoming common place.

]]> By: Tepp-Esh http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33683 Tepp-Esh Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:17:33 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33683 I think that there are a few reasons why people turn to HULU and torrents, and I think the biggest reason is convenience. I don't want to have to choose between doing something and watching my shows, when I can simply watch the show at my leisure online. It means I can both have a life and still keep up with the shows I care about. If you have a cable subscription to a given channel, the network has your money anyway, no matter how you watch the show. I think that there are a few reasons why people turn to HULU and torrents, and I think the biggest reason is convenience. I don’t want to have to choose between doing something and watching my shows, when I can simply watch the show at my leisure online. It means I can both have a life and still keep up with the shows I care about. If you have a cable subscription to a given channel, the network has your money anyway, no matter how you watch the show.

]]> By: AlphaGirl http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33682 AlphaGirl Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:34:42 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33682 There's a really interesting piece on this very thing on HuffPo today: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/henry-blodget/the-tv-business-is-toast_b_216243.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/henry-blodget/the-t...</a> There's a really interesting piece on this very thing on HuffPo today: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/henry-blodget/the-t…

]]> By: liz http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/06/16/when-you-watch-hulu-the-terrorists-win/comment-page-1/#comment-33680 liz Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:04:25 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6868#comment-33680 If more people watch something like Hulu, can't they just up the cost per ad? If more people watch something like Hulu, can't they just up the cost per ad?

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