Comments on: Dollhouse: Omega http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/ "The first boy I ever kissed ended up in a coma for three weeks." - Rogue Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:54:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jennkim http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33301 jennkim Sat, 16 May 2009 05:21:51 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33301 ahh i see... i hadn't caught that southie comment in the episode...but i guess, having lived in boston my whole adult life, didn't feel it sounded very bostonian or southie, either (her home town of watertown is relatively quite far from southie, so i'm not convinced it's really an "authentic" accent.) but that's me, an unqualified accent-elitist!! and admittedly, my annoyance with that whole episode could very well have clouded my accent-judgment. ahh i see… i hadn't caught that southie comment in the episode…but i guess, having lived in boston my whole adult life, didn't feel it sounded very bostonian or southie, either (her home town of watertown is relatively quite far from southie, so i'm not convinced it's really an "authentic" accent.) but that's me, an unqualified accent-elitist!! and admittedly, my annoyance with that whole episode could very well have clouded my accent-judgment.

]]> By: jennkim http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33300 jennkim Sat, 16 May 2009 05:08:19 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33300 yes, that's what i thought! i think he TOTALLY loves her. but then i can also see sonia's interpretation, too. ahh to get the chance to learn more... yes, that's what i thought! i think he TOTALLY loves her. but then i can also see sonia's interpretation, too. ahh to get the chance to learn more…

]]> By: DeeLeit http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33268 DeeLeit Thu, 14 May 2009 00:12:56 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33268 Well, Saunders was able to hack Topher's computer system and Alpha was NOT.... so... she's got MAD SKILLZ, YO. Still a possibility. Well, Saunders was able to hack Topher's computer system and Alpha was NOT…. so… she's got MAD SKILLZ, YO. Still a possibility.

]]> By: DeeLeit http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33267 DeeLeit Thu, 14 May 2009 00:11:53 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33267 Good!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that exchange as being something deeper between Whiskey and Topher! I was going to post that I disagreed that it was "obvious" that Whiskey's 'soul" hates Topher.... I didn't see that at all, I saw her hatred of him as his way of keeping her away from him in his shame for not being able to protect her. I thought perhaps he loves her??? :) Good!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that exchange as being something deeper between Whiskey and Topher!

I was going to post that I disagreed that it was "obvious" that Whiskey's 'soul" hates Topher…. I didn't see that at all, I saw her hatred of him as his way of keeping her away from him in his shame for not being able to protect her. I thought perhaps he loves her???
:)

]]> By: Robin http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33246 Robin Wed, 13 May 2009 14:05:08 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33246 While I agree that Eliza still has some growing to do as an actor, I have to defend her against: <i>"...her tough-girl-bad ny accented- back-up singer..."</i> It wasn't "bad New York", it was authentic Boston. That's where Eliza grew up, and the character even says "I'm from Southie" [i.e. South Boston, see also <i>Good Will Hunting</i>]. (It's also why she has a bit of trouble doing other regional accents.) While I agree that Eliza still has some growing to do as an actor, I have to defend her against:

"…her tough-girl-bad ny accented- back-up singer…"

It wasn't "bad New York", it was authentic Boston. That's where Eliza grew up, and the character even says "I'm from Southie" [i.e. South Boston, see also Good Will Hunting]. (It's also why she has a bit of trouble doing other regional accents.)

]]> By: Doctor Zen http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33222 Doctor Zen Tue, 12 May 2009 21:44:17 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33222 There's another unanswered question besides the DH's real purpose (unless I missed something): Who is the person inside who sent messages to Ballard thru Echo and November? My guess had been Saunders, but that doesn't seem likely now. That doesn't leave too many people besides Topher and Adele, who don't seem likely either. I am suspicious about who else is a doll, though: who better to run a branch of an orgnization than a person who was imprinted to do so? There's another unanswered question besides the DH's real purpose (unless I missed something): Who is the person inside who sent messages to Ballard thru Echo and November? My guess had been Saunders, but that doesn't seem likely now. That doesn't leave too many people besides Topher and Adele, who don't seem likely either. I am suspicious about who else is a doll, though: who better to run a branch of an orgnization than a person who was imprinted to do so?

]]> By: jennkim http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33221 jennkim Tue, 12 May 2009 21:43:16 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33221 yeah, i agree... as a whole, she was a weak point of the episode. i've actually kinda cringed/shuddered with most of eliza's scenes (i wanted to kick her depiction of caroline in the head, and laugh derisively at her tough-girl-bad ny accented- back-up singer portrayal), so i was pleasantly surprised she pulled off a southern accent. anyway, great recap!! i guess we have to wait until the dvd comes out for that long lost 13th episode. dear goodness i hope this show gets renewed... (and i am SO with you about pushing daisies!!) yeah, i agree… as a whole, she was a weak point of the episode. i've actually kinda cringed/shuddered with most of eliza's scenes (i wanted to kick her depiction of caroline in the head, and laugh derisively at her tough-girl-bad ny accented- back-up singer portrayal), so i was pleasantly surprised she pulled off a southern accent.

anyway, great recap!! i guess we have to wait until the dvd comes out for that long lost 13th episode. dear goodness i hope this show gets renewed…

(and i am SO with you about pushing daisies!!)

]]> By: saurora510 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33218 saurora510 Tue, 12 May 2009 19:45:39 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33218 While I agree that Topher was clearly heartbroken at wiping Echo from being Omega, I don't think he programmed Saunders with the hatred she believed he had. I think it stemmed from the residual knowledge that they imprinted her because she was broken, and she's had contempt for him and DeWitt and much of the Dollhouse for a long time (one reason why for a long time I suspected her as the mole). I did, however, feel sorry for him as he reacted to her saying that she hated him; it threw him I think in 2 ways - that she felt that strongly against him, and that he couldn't really blame her for feeling that towards him. I think he started to actually peel back his own layers of self-proclaimed genius and bravado and realize what he does, however brilliant it may be, however snarky he wants to be about it, has reprecussions. The man has no friends; he has to create one annually on his birthday. I think at times he feels Godly, but his role should really be more like a parent and I think that's what he started to feel - that slow growing responsibility he ought to have for what he does. I really hope we get a Season 2. While I agree that Topher was clearly heartbroken at wiping Echo from being Omega, I don't think he programmed Saunders with the hatred she believed he had. I think it stemmed from the residual knowledge that they imprinted her because she was broken, and she's had contempt for him and DeWitt and much of the Dollhouse for a long time (one reason why for a long time I suspected her as the mole). I did, however, feel sorry for him as he reacted to her saying that she hated him; it threw him I think in 2 ways – that she felt that strongly against him, and that he couldn't really blame her for feeling that towards him. I think he started to actually peel back his own layers of self-proclaimed genius and bravado and realize what he does, however brilliant it may be, however snarky he wants to be about it, has reprecussions. The man has no friends; he has to create one annually on his birthday. I think at times he feels Godly, but his role should really be more like a parent and I think that's what he started to feel – that slow growing responsibility he ought to have for what he does.
I really hope we get a Season 2.

]]> By: saurora510 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33217 saurora510 Tue, 12 May 2009 19:36:11 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33217 I think I would have liked Eliza as the ditz if the episode wasn't clearly as heavy as it was. Her brainlessness wasn't funny to me as it was distracting, and then annoying. I wanted to get kickass Echo; I kept waiting on the yin to Alpha's yang, and so it just took too damn long (for me). Again, I think its also that I find Eliza to be a weaker point. Her ditz turn didn't endear me to understanding why Alpha thought she was so special. I understand his reasoning for imprinting her the way he did, I just wish she'd been ditzier or tougher; she fell flat on both (for me). It didn't hold the comedy that her turn as Patton Oswalt's wife and when she's insisting his internet empire is built on porn (probably my favorite funny performance Eliza did all season). I think I would have liked Eliza as the ditz if the episode wasn't clearly as heavy as it was. Her brainlessness wasn't funny to me as it was distracting, and then annoying. I wanted to get kickass Echo; I kept waiting on the yin to Alpha's yang, and so it just took too damn long (for me). Again, I think its also that I find Eliza to be a weaker point. Her ditz turn didn't endear me to understanding why Alpha thought she was so special. I understand his reasoning for imprinting her the way he did, I just wish she'd been ditzier or tougher; she fell flat on both (for me). It didn't hold the comedy that her turn as Patton Oswalt's wife and when she's insisting his internet empire is built on porn (probably my favorite funny performance Eliza did all season).

]]> By: saurora510 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33216 saurora510 Tue, 12 May 2009 19:06:24 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33216 I AGREE! Mellie (November) also had such a great line when she referred to Ballard as "the furniture" but we got to see no more sass...and I trully love Sierra, she's a true chamleon on the show. I hope there are extended scenes and I do hope we see Mellie in the next season (God willing there is one). I AGREE! Mellie (November) also had such a great line when she referred to Ballard as "the furniture" but we got to see no more sass…and I trully love Sierra, she's a true chamleon on the show. I hope there are extended scenes and I do hope we see Mellie in the next season (God willing there is one).

]]> By: saurora510 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33215 saurora510 Tue, 12 May 2009 19:04:05 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33215 Thanks for the clarification on the handler - what threw me was that he escorted Echo to the chair that one time when Alpha was clearly seething so I was confused as to who he "belonged" to. There was so much going on I hope you'll forgive my faux pas :) I did hear something about Pushing Daisies coming back, but seeing as ABC has left it to die I'm not surprised they aren't promoting it. I have to up the priority on my DVR que to make sure not to miss them....THANKS! Thanks for the clarification on the handler – what threw me was that he escorted Echo to the chair that one time when Alpha was clearly seething so I was confused as to who he "belonged" to. There was so much going on I hope you'll forgive my faux pas :)
I did hear something about Pushing Daisies coming back, but seeing as ABC has left it to die I'm not surprised they aren't promoting it. I have to up the priority on my DVR que to make sure not to miss them….THANKS!

]]> By: jennkim http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33212 jennkim Tue, 12 May 2009 16:50:18 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33212 one thought of contention- when dr. saunders said it was strange that topher programmed her to hate him, i thought that, well... he actually programmed her to hate him. possibly b/c he hated himself for having to reprogram her and felt he didn't deserve to be liked by her, possibly for some other unknown emo reason (they had a prior relationship), but in that moment, i truly felt for topher and saw him as a more morally complex person than previously depicted. he's quickly become one of my favorite characters, and i loved it when he followed the doll-script ("did i fall asleep?" "for a little while." "shall i go now?" "if you'd like" with such emotional resonance/brokenness. we saw that he's capable of being affected by what happens to the dolls, and i loved it! i need a season 2 to find out more of HIS dealings, and what had truly brought him to the dollhouse (and i agree; i definitely want to know what brought boyd there). plus, i love that the season ended with essentially an open alpha invitation. more amy ackers and alan tudyk, please! one thought of contention- when dr. saunders said it was strange that topher programmed her to hate him, i thought that, well… he actually programmed her to hate him. possibly b/c he hated himself for having to reprogram her and felt he didn't deserve to be liked by her, possibly for some other unknown emo reason (they had a prior relationship), but in that moment, i truly felt for topher and saw him as a more morally complex person than previously depicted. he's quickly become one of my favorite characters, and i loved it when he followed the doll-script ("did i fall asleep?" "for a little while." "shall i go now?" "if you'd like" with such emotional resonance/brokenness. we saw that he's capable of being affected by what happens to the dolls, and i loved it! i need a season 2 to find out more of HIS dealings, and what had truly brought him to the dollhouse (and i agree; i definitely want to know what brought boyd there). plus, i love that the season ended with essentially an open alpha invitation. more amy ackers and alan tudyk, please!

]]> By: jennkim http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33211 jennkim Tue, 12 May 2009 16:50:13 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33211 AHH i thought this was a GREAT, GREAT episode. man, there's a reason joss keeps asking alumns back to guest star. amy acker is always superb (when she finds out that she's a doll, i got chills), and alan tudyk is frickin' brilliant. eliza...well, i agree, i think she's grown. i actually liked her as the brainless southern bonnie- she was pretty hilarious and convincing. AHH i thought this was a GREAT, GREAT episode. man, there's a reason joss keeps asking alumns back to guest star. amy acker is always superb (when she finds out that she's a doll, i got chills), and alan tudyk is frickin' brilliant. eliza…well, i agree, i think she's grown. i actually liked her as the brainless southern bonnie- she was pretty hilarious and convincing.

]]> By: Robin http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33210 Robin Tue, 12 May 2009 16:16:52 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33210 Nice recap, <b>Sonia</b>. One small nitpick: Blevins, played by the lovely Marco Sanchez, was Alpha's handler, not Echo's. He referred to "my guy" in the flashback with Alpha and Whiskey's engagement gone wrong. I really enjoyed this episode, and the season as a whole, so I hope the series gets picked up. There are clearly still a lot of fascinating stories to be told about this world and the people in it. By the way, ABC will be showing the final three episodes of <i>Pushing Daisies</i> on Saturdays at 10pm starting May 30th. They haven't advertised it at all that I've seen, so spread the word. Nice recap, Sonia. One small nitpick: Blevins, played by the lovely Marco Sanchez, was Alpha's handler, not Echo's. He referred to "my guy" in the flashback with Alpha and Whiskey's engagement gone wrong.

I really enjoyed this episode, and the season as a whole, so I hope the series gets picked up. There are clearly still a lot of fascinating stories to be told about this world and the people in it.

By the way, ABC will be showing the final three episodes of Pushing Daisies on Saturdays at 10pm starting May 30th. They haven't advertised it at all that I've seen, so spread the word.

]]> By: Yaya http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/05/12/dollhouse-omega/comment-page-1/#comment-33196 Yaya Tue, 12 May 2009 13:34:22 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6615#comment-33196 I hated the way that once the bounty hunters were created they just disappeared. They are in the script for a few more scenes and photos from those scenes were used in the promo for the episode (see the pic in your article). I just hope these scenes and any other cut out for time in the series are put back in for the Blu-Ray release. I hated the way that once the bounty hunters were created they just disappeared. They are in the script for a few more scenes and photos from those scenes were used in the promo for the episode (see the pic in your article).

I just hope these scenes and any other cut out for time in the series are put back in for the Blu-Ray release.

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