Comments on: Supernatural: Jump the Shark http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/ "I would never take advantage of a sexually immature species." - Lt. Ilia Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:39:43 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32962 Sylvia Bond Sat, 02 May 2009 01:22:17 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32962 I think so. You're saying they're doing a flip without adding any dialog to support it? That if Dean acknowledged how he's changed, out loud, that that would support the changes Show is giving us now. It's a little bit of a hole in the character development for Dean. And Sam too, because he's not ever acknowledged how Dean has changed. Let alone himself. Deny, deny, deny!!! Sam is insane in a way - I keep thinking that whatever road he's on, when he looks down, his footprints and the road disappear in a mist and he can't quite figure out where he is. Where he's going. Oh, Sam. I think so. You're saying they're doing a flip without adding any dialog to support it? That if Dean acknowledged how he's changed, out loud, that that would support the changes Show is giving us now. It's a little bit of a hole in the character development for Dean. And Sam too, because he's not ever acknowledged how Dean has changed. Let alone himself. Deny, deny, deny!!! Sam is insane in a way – I keep thinking that whatever road he's on, when he looks down, his footprints and the road disappear in a mist and he can't quite figure out where he is. Where he's going. Oh, Sam.

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32961 Sylvia Bond Sat, 02 May 2009 01:18:43 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32961 I'm worried about Sam too, but I think he's almost beyond saving. The blood drinking scenes were absolutely ghoulish; I'm a little surprised Dean didn't flip out any, he certainly has in the past. I've only been able to watch this ep once, so I hope to have more of a chance once the season is over. : D Sam is like a lost sheep; he needs rescuing and badly. Best Regards, Sylvia I'm worried about Sam too, but I think he's almost beyond saving. The blood drinking scenes were absolutely ghoulish; I'm a little surprised Dean didn't flip out any, he certainly has in the past. I've only been able to watch this ep once, so I hope to have more of a chance once the season is over. : D

Sam is like a lost sheep; he needs rescuing and badly.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32960 Sylvia Bond Sat, 02 May 2009 01:09:56 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32960 It was HUGE table! It was so huge, that I'm sure we didn't even see all of it. What is it about Sam being tied up that seems so intrinsic to Thursdays? He looks so good that way, besides. I tried not to be shallow this week, but it was very, very hard. Best Regards, Sylvia It was HUGE table! It was so huge, that I'm sure we didn't even see all of it. What is it about Sam being tied up that seems so intrinsic to Thursdays? He looks so good that way, besides. I tried not to be shallow this week, but it was very, very hard.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32959 Sylvia Bond Sat, 02 May 2009 01:08:45 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32959 You are more than welcome; it's my pleasure, completely. Besides, I love being told I'm astute. : D And yeah, next year is a long way away! Plenty of boys on the road to enjoy. Best Regards, Sylvia You are more than welcome; it's my pleasure, completely. Besides, I love being told I'm astute. : D
And yeah, next year is a long way away! Plenty of boys on the road to enjoy.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: trina http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32949 trina Fri, 01 May 2009 02:34:47 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32949 Oh, I absolutley agree that the the intent behind it was very different. Dean truly thought he was doing the best thing possible, (telling Sam it was better to not have any attachments, using the boy as bait in "Something Wicked") while Sam is just downright insane right now. I just got the feeling that the writers were trying to create parallels between season one and now, and just adding Dean saying "I was wrong back then" would have cemented the idea of character growth. I don't think the character of Dean is a hypocrite at all, I just think the writers sort of left out a line that would have erased any doubt. Does that make any sense at all? Oh, I absolutley agree that the the intent behind it was very different. Dean truly thought he was doing the best thing possible, (telling Sam it was better to not have any attachments, using the boy as bait in "Something Wicked") while Sam is just downright insane right now. I just got the feeling that the writers were trying to create parallels between season one and now, and just adding Dean saying "I was wrong back then" would have cemented the idea of character growth. I don't think the character of Dean is a hypocrite at all, I just think the writers sort of left out a line that would have erased any doubt. Does that make any sense at all?

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32946 Sylvia Bond Fri, 01 May 2009 00:22:10 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32946 The difference about what Dean said to Sam and what Sam said to Adam, is that Dean said it with love. I also think Dean would have preferred NOT to tell Sam any of it, to keep him shielded from the dark things. Sam on the other hand marched right in telling Adam everything, and didn't seem to have much trouble just laying it all out there. Harsh reality? Bring it on!!! The difference wasn't the message, mostly, but the intent behind it, if you see what I mean. They said the same things but for different reasons. The difference about what Dean said to Sam and what Sam said to Adam, is that Dean said it with love. I also think Dean would have preferred NOT to tell Sam any of it, to keep him shielded from the dark things.

Sam on the other hand marched right in telling Adam everything, and didn't seem to have much trouble just laying it all out there. Harsh reality? Bring it on!!!

The difference wasn't the message, mostly, but the intent behind it, if you see what I mean. They said the same things but for different reasons.

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32945 Sylvia Bond Fri, 01 May 2009 00:19:59 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32945 He is a good brother, isn't he. : D I rather like it when Show gives us stuff like the RPS, because it's those small threads that make the story come to life, that give it texture and realism and continuity. Plus Dean is SO cute when he looses!!!!! And thanks for the compliment, I'm glad you enjoyed the review! Best Regards, Sylvia He is a good brother, isn't he. : D
I rather like it when Show gives us stuff like the RPS, because it's those small threads that make the story come to life, that give it texture and realism and continuity. Plus Dean is SO cute when he looses!!!!!

And thanks for the compliment, I'm glad you enjoyed the review!

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32944 Sylvia Bond Fri, 01 May 2009 00:18:17 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32944 I love this comment. It pretty much sums it up perfectly, where Dean is coming from. Dean has so many scars, this is one of the bigger ones. His face when he found out about the baseball game on Adam's birthday just about broke my heart. I love this comment. It pretty much sums it up perfectly, where Dean is coming from. Dean has so many scars, this is one of the bigger ones. His face when he found out about the baseball game on Adam's birthday just about broke my heart.

]]> By: LaurenVL http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32943 LaurenVL Fri, 01 May 2009 00:17:29 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32943 "The only thing I didn't like was that Dean did come off as quite hypocritical in that most of the things Sam said to Adam were the same things Dean has said to Sam." And Sam *hated* his life growing up, *hated* John for training them like warriors, and *hated* being a hunter. Sam resented Dean for agreeing with John that it was a good thing that they were taught to be hunters. Sam thought Dean was an idiot (as he told him in DMB) for having "blind faith" in John. Sam wanted no part of their life, which is why he left that life to go to Stanford. And now he embraces everything that John (and Dean) taught him. I think Sam comes off just as hypocritical as Dean here. "It's why Sam was so surprised that Dean didn't agree about telling Adam about the things that were out there and teaching him about hunting. I think a simple "I was wrong back then" would have solved that. " Dean was in a completely different situation "back then" though. Dean was just a child when John taught him about hunting. He was 6 years old when John taught him to shoot a gun. I don't think Dean was wrong to embrace what John was teaching him back then because Dean didn't have a choice. Just because Dean has a different perspective as an adult doesn't mean that he would have lived his life any other way as a child. He was a CHILD. But he isn't a child now and he's had the benefit of his own experience, enough to know that this life is hard, and he didn't want Adam to be dragged into it. "He is in so much trouble, and I keep waiting for Dean to actually SEE his brother. " You're correct. Dean has held onto his faith in Sam through everything. He has put Sam up on a pedestal for so long that he doesn't want to see flaws in the brother that he's so proud of, that he helped raise and is his proudest accomplishment. I think Dean has been giving Sam the benefit of the doubt because he truly believes that Sam deserves it. I do think his eyes have been opened now though. "The only thing I didn't like was that Dean did come off as quite hypocritical in that most of the things Sam said to Adam were the same things Dean has said to Sam."

And Sam *hated* his life growing up, *hated* John for training them like warriors, and *hated* being a hunter. Sam resented Dean for agreeing with John that it was a good thing that they were taught to be hunters. Sam thought Dean was an idiot (as he told him in DMB) for having "blind faith" in John. Sam wanted no part of their life, which is why he left that life to go to Stanford. And now he embraces everything that John (and Dean) taught him. I think Sam comes off just as hypocritical as Dean here.

"It's why Sam was so surprised that Dean didn't agree about telling Adam about the things that were out there and teaching him about hunting. I think a simple "I was wrong back then" would have solved that. "

Dean was in a completely different situation "back then" though. Dean was just a child when John taught him about hunting. He was 6 years old when John taught him to shoot a gun. I don't think Dean was wrong to embrace what John was teaching him back then because Dean didn't have a choice. Just because Dean has a different perspective as an adult doesn't mean that he would have lived his life any other way as a child. He was a CHILD. But he isn't a child now and he's had the benefit of his own experience, enough to know that this life is hard, and he didn't want Adam to be dragged into it.

"He is in so much trouble, and I keep waiting for Dean to actually SEE his brother. "

You're correct. Dean has held onto his faith in Sam through everything. He has put Sam up on a pedestal for so long that he doesn't want to see flaws in the brother that he's so proud of, that he helped raise and is his proudest accomplishment. I think Dean has been giving Sam the benefit of the doubt because he truly believes that Sam deserves it. I do think his eyes have been opened now though.

]]> By: trina http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32941 trina Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:34:21 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32941 There was so much to love in this episode. Is Sam like John? Absolutely, he even said it himself back in season one. It just took Dean a while to catch up. The only thing I didn't like was that Dean did come off as quite hypocritical in that most of the things Sam said to Adam were the same things Dean has said to Sam. It's why Sam was so surprised that Dean didn't agree about telling Adam about the things that were out there and teaching him about hunting. I think a simple "I was wrong back then" would have solved that. I did like that neither of the brothers was actually wrong. Dean was right in that it was a trap, while Sam's claim that Adam was in the line of fire simply because of who his father was turned out to be true. Sam broke my heart in this episode. He is in so much trouble, and I keep waiting for Dean to actually SEE his brother. I would like to think that if a family member of mine changed as much as Sam has lately I would be doing everything I could to find out what the heck was going on. There was so much to love in this episode. Is Sam like John? Absolutely, he even said it himself back in season one. It just took Dean a while to catch up. The only thing I didn't like was that Dean did come off as quite hypocritical in that most of the things Sam said to Adam were the same things Dean has said to Sam. It's why Sam was so surprised that Dean didn't agree about telling Adam about the things that were out there and teaching him about hunting. I think a simple "I was wrong back then" would have solved that.

I did like that neither of the brothers was actually wrong. Dean was right in that it was a trap, while Sam's claim that Adam was in the line of fire simply because of who his father was turned out to be true.

Sam broke my heart in this episode. He is in so much trouble, and I keep waiting for Dean to actually SEE his brother. I would like to think that if a family member of mine changed as much as Sam has lately I would be doing everything I could to find out what the heck was going on.

]]> By: Cheryl http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32933 Cheryl Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:17:22 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32933 Oh I agree with you completely Lauren you put it so beautifully and it's been wonderful seeing the changes in Dean!" What got to me was not once hearing Sam say hey wait a minute didn't you say or do the exact same thing. Or Dean saying yeah I know I did that but this is what I learned from that experience to change my mind! Neither of them even hinted at remembering these things and it sort of seemed like the the writers wanted to have it both ways. They wanted to show us a complete role reversal with the brothers and use many references to season one in particular "Something Wicked' but then at the end of the show say oh yeah Dean was only acting like John. Kind of drove me in a nice kind of way crazy as it was a good episode like one of those puzzling circles ! I know it gave my best online friend a head ache trying to figure this one out! LOL Thank you for replying to my comment Lauren VL Oh I agree with you completely Lauren you put it so beautifully and it's been wonderful seeing the changes in Dean!"
What got to me was not once hearing Sam say hey wait a minute didn't you say or do the exact same thing. Or Dean saying yeah I know I did that but this is what I learned from that experience to change my mind! Neither of them even hinted at remembering these things and it sort of seemed like the the writers wanted to have it both ways. They wanted to show us a complete role reversal with the brothers and use many references to season one in particular "Something Wicked' but then at the end of the show say oh yeah Dean was only acting like John. Kind of drove me in a nice kind of way crazy as it was a good episode like one of those puzzling circles ! I know it gave my best online friend a head ache trying to figure this one out! LOL
Thank you for replying to my comment Lauren VL

]]> By: LaurenVL http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32932 LaurenVL Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:55:15 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32932 "The episode is just about perfect. It integrated the overall story arc and included the brothers dealing with their growing discord. That is, not dealing with it, but at least we got to SEE them not dealing with it as they snipped at each other in a variety of failure-to-communicate scenes, beautifully rendered and masterfully filmed in all their discordant glory." Great review, Sylvia. I really enjoyed this episode as well for everything you've mentioned. And I loved the RPS scene, so much! Dean "ALWAYS with the scissors"! It was very nice of him to volunteer like that ... he's such a good brother. ;-) "The episode is just about perfect. It integrated the overall story arc and included the brothers dealing with their growing discord. That is, not dealing with it, but at least we got to SEE them not dealing with it as they snipped at each other in a variety of failure-to-communicate scenes, beautifully rendered and masterfully filmed in all their discordant glory."

Great review, Sylvia. I really enjoyed this episode as well for everything you've mentioned. And I loved the RPS scene, so much! Dean "ALWAYS with the scissors"! It was very nice of him to volunteer like that … he's such a good brother. ;-)

]]> By: LaurenVL http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32931 LaurenVL Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:49:55 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32931 "Dean may have since changed his views but he didn't just act like Dean the first season he was John for most of the first season and he taught Sam much of what Sam was teaching Adam in Jump The Shark but both of them seemed to have first season amnesia. " I just think it's wonderful that Dean has grown and matured so much this season. Yes, Dean's views have changed, through experience and through self-discovery over the years. I think it's wonderful that Dean can step back and re-evaluate the way he was taught growing up and how that impacted them. Dean's eyes have definitely been opened regarding John and I think it's great that he can separate his own emotional issues about how John treated him and what he felt was the best approach to take with Adam. "Dean may have since changed his views but he didn't just act like Dean the first season he was John for most of the first season and he taught Sam much of what Sam was teaching Adam in Jump The Shark but both of them seemed to have first season amnesia. "

I just think it's wonderful that Dean has grown and matured so much this season. Yes, Dean's views have changed, through experience and through self-discovery over the years. I think it's wonderful that Dean can step back and re-evaluate the way he was taught growing up and how that impacted them. Dean's eyes have definitely been opened regarding John and I think it's great that he can separate his own emotional issues about how John treated him and what he felt was the best approach to take with Adam.

]]> By: LaurenVL http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32930 LaurenVL Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:40:03 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32930 "He is not responsible for those choices, but he has yet to even acknowledge how badly his death hurt Sam, and how much it messed his brother up." The problem is that Dean doesn't feel worthy of mattering that much to Sam. It's the reason Dean made the deal in the first place ... because Sam is more important, he's more worthy of life than Dean is. Dean has always felt that Sam is the special one and Dean's low self-worth has been a consistent character trait in Dean throughout the seasons. In S3, Dean told Sam (told himself) that Sam would be fine without him, and I'm sure Dean believed it. Not because he doesn't acknowledge Sam's pain or love for him, but because Dean sees Sam as strong and independent and perfectly capable of living without him. So, IMO, it wouldn't even occur to Dean that Sam would be epically damaged by his death because Dean quite simply doesn't believe himself to be worthy of that hurt and pain. And that is just one more scar that John's parenting left on Dean Winchester. "He is not responsible for those choices, but he has yet to even acknowledge how badly his death hurt Sam, and how much it messed his brother up."

The problem is that Dean doesn't feel worthy of mattering that much to Sam. It's the reason Dean made the deal in the first place … because Sam is more important, he's more worthy of life than Dean is. Dean has always felt that Sam is the special one and Dean's low self-worth has been a consistent character trait in Dean throughout the seasons. In S3, Dean told Sam (told himself) that Sam would be fine without him, and I'm sure Dean believed it. Not because he doesn't acknowledge Sam's pain or love for him, but because Dean sees Sam as strong and independent and perfectly capable of living without him. So, IMO, it wouldn't even occur to Dean that Sam would be epically damaged by his death because Dean quite simply doesn't believe himself to be worthy of that hurt and pain.

And that is just one more scar that John's parenting left on Dean Winchester.

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32924 Sylvia Bond Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:20:42 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32924 Wait. They're not perfect? Oh no!!!! Just kidding. I'm pretty sure boy boys have the best and most honorable of intentions. What I like watching is that yes, sometimes Sam doesn't want to see that he's the master of his own destiny. He's got a very dramatic and romantic soul, and he likes happily ever after very much. I think that what happens to him is that when the worst occurs, which it always does, for some reason he's not very well equipped to deal with it. Adversity tries people, and poor Sam flails a bit. I I'm not saying that he's not calm in a crisis, indeed, who got him and Dean and The Dad out of the range of the Shadow monsters in Season 2? Sam was the one who thought that through. When rescuing someone else, he's the master of his art. Rescuing himself, he doesn't do so well. I don't think he goes around blaming Dean or anything like that, but he's rather on the side of "why me?" and "What the hell do I do now?" and unfortunately, the only thing he can see is Ruby and her mysterious blood. Remember in Mystery Spot? Sam couldn't see the forest for the trees; it never occurs to him to change the pattern. Dean does that. Part of Sam's problem is that he's got tunnel vision. Like The Dad. As for Dean. The boy is an enabler of the first water. He can't ever say no to Sam, especially, and while this is charming when there's the last of the spaggetios to consider, it's less so when there's life and death on the table. Dean takes on burdens, even when he's fresh out. He's co-dependent and overly giving, and never takes care of his own emotional health. It's going to break him if it hasn't already, and I highly suspect that he's completely whacked and all we're seeing is the thin outer shell that's going to crack at ANY MOMENT. (Or is this just me wanting to see him in the looney bin for real? Oh, Dean. I'm so sorry...) Both boys are flawed, horribly. And I love them all the more for it. Best Regards, Sylvia Wait. They're not perfect? Oh no!!!!

Just kidding. I'm pretty sure boy boys have the best and most honorable of intentions.

What I like watching is that yes, sometimes Sam doesn't want to see that he's the master of his own destiny. He's got a very dramatic and romantic soul, and he likes happily ever after very much. I think that what happens to him is that when the worst occurs, which it always does, for some reason he's not very well equipped to deal with it. Adversity tries people, and poor Sam flails a bit. I

I'm not saying that he's not calm in a crisis, indeed, who got him and Dean and The Dad out of the range of the Shadow monsters in Season 2? Sam was the one who thought that through. When rescuing someone else, he's the master of his art. Rescuing himself, he doesn't do so well. I don't think he goes around blaming Dean or anything like that, but he's rather on the side of "why me?" and "What the hell do I do now?" and unfortunately, the only thing he can see is Ruby and her mysterious blood.

Remember in Mystery Spot? Sam couldn't see the forest for the trees; it never occurs to him to change the pattern. Dean does that. Part of Sam's problem is that he's got tunnel vision. Like The Dad.

As for Dean. The boy is an enabler of the first water. He can't ever say no to Sam, especially, and while this is charming when there's the last of the spaggetios to consider, it's less so when there's life and death on the table. Dean takes on burdens, even when he's fresh out. He's co-dependent and overly giving, and never takes care of his own emotional health. It's going to break him if it hasn't already, and I highly suspect that he's completely whacked and all we're seeing is the thin outer shell that's going to crack at ANY MOMENT. (Or is this just me wanting to see him in the looney bin for real? Oh, Dean. I'm so sorry…)

Both boys are flawed, horribly. And I love them all the more for it.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32923 Sylvia Bond Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:11:26 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32923 Oh, no kidding! Most men who lost that much blood wouldn't be able to speak, let alone sit up! I'm going to give them some leeway for poetic license, but seriously? The boy needed a hospital and fast. He never has had a hospital scene, you're right. Maybe it's all that demon blood keeping him out of there, but jeeze. WIth as nice as the guy looks in white? I'd love to see him there. Twisted I know....I wouldn't worry about Sam. I have a feeling he's going to come out on the side of might and right. You know. Like Snape did. Only Sam's not going to die. Never, ever, ever. EVER. Best Regards, Sylvia Oh, no kidding! Most men who lost that much blood wouldn't be able to speak, let alone sit up! I'm going to give them some leeway for poetic license, but seriously? The boy needed a hospital and fast. He never has had a hospital scene, you're right. Maybe it's all that demon blood keeping him out of there, but jeeze. WIth as nice as the guy looks in white? I'd love to see him there. Twisted I know….I wouldn't worry about Sam. I have a feeling he's going to come out on the side of might and right. You know. Like Snape did. Only Sam's not going to die. Never, ever, ever. EVER.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32922 Sylvia Bond Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:08:54 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32922 I feel strange enabling your addiction, but there you go. I'm addicted to writing reviews, and you're addicted to reading them. : D The ep was particularly fine this week, wasn't it. I kept thinking, they can't be that pretty, they can't be! But they are. Yours in Astuteness, Sylvia I feel strange enabling your addiction, but there you go. I'm addicted to writing reviews, and you're addicted to reading them. : D

The ep was particularly fine this week, wasn't it. I kept thinking, they can't be that pretty, they can't be! But they are.

Yours in Astuteness,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32921 Sylvia Bond Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:07:35 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32921 I knew that about Fonzie, I always thought it kind of fun that this one little act would spark such a phenomenon of being able to talk about when a show was making a fool of itself. There were a few shows that never jumped the shark, before the site was taken down there was Hogan's Heros and The Simpsons. I can't remembe any of the others. Oh, and SHOW of course! I agree with what you say about the role reversal, except that when Dean was teaching Sam what The Dad taught him, he did it in his own way, rather than The Dad's. He tended to include reasons (or tried to) and explanations, his motivation behind things. The Dad, one assumes, just gave orders and expected them to be followed. Best Regards, Sylvia I knew that about Fonzie, I always thought it kind of fun that this one little act would spark such a phenomenon of being able to talk about when a show was making a fool of itself. There were a few shows that never jumped the shark, before the site was taken down there was Hogan's Heros and The Simpsons. I can't remembe any of the others. Oh, and SHOW of course!

I agree with what you say about the role reversal, except that when Dean was teaching Sam what The Dad taught him, he did it in his own way, rather than The Dad's. He tended to include reasons (or tried to) and explanations, his motivation behind things. The Dad, one assumes, just gave orders and expected them to be followed.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32920 Sylvia Bond Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:04:31 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32920 I tried not to be shallow but it didn't work. The boys are too pretty to be believed this week, it was a pleasure, just a pleasure. But seriously, did you see the depth of those cuts? Stitches for sure. Why doesn't Sam ever end up in the hospital? Hell, even Superman got taken to the emergency room! Best Regards, Sylvia I tried not to be shallow but it didn't work. The boys are too pretty to be believed this week, it was a pleasure, just a pleasure. But seriously, did you see the depth of those cuts? Stitches for sure. Why doesn't Sam ever end up in the hospital? Hell, even Superman got taken to the emergency room!

Best Regards,

Sylvia

]]> By: Sylvia Bond http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/04/28/supernatural-jump-the-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-32917 Sylvia Bond Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:27:36 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=6439#comment-32917 New COKE sucked!!! And regular Coke isn't too good for you either....off topic there, sorry. Sam needs to go to the hospital!!!! He needs stitches. Sheesh. Can we at least get a few bandages next week? Please? Best Regards, Sylvia New COKE sucked!!! And regular Coke isn't too good for you either….off topic there, sorry.

Sam needs to go to the hospital!!!! He needs stitches. Sheesh. Can we at least get a few bandages next week? Please?

Best Regards,

Sylvia

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