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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32538</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s ultimately up to each person. Mistreating someone just because you were mistreated previously isn&#039;t the way to handle it though. That goes double if the person you&#039;re being cruel to isn&#039;t even the one who wronged you in the beginning. Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right and so forth. 
 
I&#039;m not trying to argue with you, but I still don&#039;t understand the &quot;top billing&quot;&#039; issue. How does Jared have top billing? And what benefit does it give him? The only thing I&#039;ve ever seen that doesn&#039;t represent them perfectly equally is the credits to the show.  Someone&#039;s name had to come first, both in the credits, and on imdb, since they only list one name at a time. I&#039;m not a Hollywood expert, but I don&#039;t see how having his name first gets Jared anything special. Who knows, maybe they flipped a coin way back in the beginning and Jared won. I&#039;m not trying to belittle your concern, I just genuinely don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s a big deal.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#039;s ultimately up to each person. Mistreating someone just because you were mistreated previously isn&#039;t the way to handle it though. That goes double if the person you&#039;re being cruel to isn&#039;t even the one who wronged you in the beginning. Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right and so forth. </p>
<p>I&#039;m not trying to argue with you, but I still don&#039;t understand the &quot;top billing&quot;&#039; issue. How does Jared have top billing? And what benefit does it give him? The only thing I&#039;ve ever seen that doesn&#039;t represent them perfectly equally is the credits to the show.  Someone&#039;s name had to come first, both in the credits, and on imdb, since they only list one name at a time. I&#039;m not a <a title="Hollywood" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/hollywood/">Hollywood</a> expert, but I don&#039;t see how having his name first gets Jared anything special. Who knows, maybe they flipped a coin way back in the beginning and Jared won. I&#039;m not trying to belittle your concern, I just genuinely don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32537</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m not saying Samgirls as a group have earned the same as what those early Samgirls dished out. No one deserves that. What I&#039;m saying is that the fandom culture was created early... criticism of the show = bad fan. What is set down early is hard to break away from, and I doubt most Deangirls are gonna feel inclined, after what was done to them.  
 
But yeah, Jared is top-billed. Jensen&#039;s second-billed... it&#039;s not equal billing. The assumption in fandom over the years has been either that it&#039;s because Sam was the lead character initially, or because Jared has better representation. *shrugs* Either way, though, he still gets the benefit of that.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#039;m not saying Samgirls as a group have earned the same as what those early Samgirls dished out. No one deserves that. What I&#039;m saying is that the fandom culture was created early&#8230; criticism of the show = bad fan. What is set down early is hard to break away from, and I doubt most Deangirls are gonna feel inclined, after what was done to them.  </p>
<p>But yeah, Jared is top-billed. Jensen&#039;s second-billed&#8230; it&#039;s not equal billing. The assumption in fandom over the years has been either that it&#039;s because Sam was the lead character initially, or because Jared has better representation. *shrugs* Either way, though, he still gets the benefit of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginzai</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginzai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to tell you that you&#039;re a wee bit awesome.  Thank you for your defense of Dean; it brought a smile to my face because it&#039;s all so aptly phrased and all of it true. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to tell you that you&#039;re a wee bit awesome.  Thank you for your defense of Dean; it brought a smile to my face because it&#039;s all so aptly phrased and all of it true.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Bond</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32534</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nekked, right? :  D 
 
Thanks for coming by! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nekked, right? :  D </p>
<p>Thanks for coming by!</p>
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		<title>By: Amalthia</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32533</link>
		<dc:creator>Amalthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed your review! And I completely agree, I&#039;d be more okay with seeing less Sam if we got to see more of Sam. :)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed your review! And I completely agree, I&#039;d be more okay with seeing less Sam if we got to see more of Sam. <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32531</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s unfortunate, that fans were cruel to each other, even at the beginning of this fandom. I wasn&#039;t a part of the fan community online at that time, so I don&#039;t know how bad it got, but I still hate to hear that. I&#039;m not sure I agree with the logic that Samgirls as a group have somehow earned mistreatment, because of what happened back then though. That doesn&#039;t seem right at all. 
 
Top credited? How so? Because his name shows up first at the beginning of the episode? That doesn&#039;t make him anything special. Someone&#039;s name has to come first when they run the credits, since they only show one name at a time.  As far as I have ever heard, they&#039;re both listed as leads in the series, in equal standing, and so the show would carry the same amount of weight on both of their resumes. For one of them to benefit more from their part in the show, wouldn&#039;t one of them have to be the star, and have the other listed as a supporting role? That&#039;s not how I&#039;ve ever seen or heard of them being billed. Am I missing something? 
 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s unfortunate, that fans were cruel to each other, even at the beginning of this fandom. I wasn&#039;t a part of the fan community online at that time, so I don&#039;t know how bad it got, but I still hate to hear that. I&#039;m not sure I agree with the logic that Samgirls as a group have somehow earned mistreatment, because of what happened back then though. That doesn&#039;t seem right at all. </p>
<p>Top credited? How so? Because his name shows up first at the beginning of the episode? That doesn&#039;t make him anything special. Someone&#039;s name has to come first when they run the credits, since they only show one name at a time.  As far as I have ever heard, they&#039;re both listed as leads in the series, in equal standing, and so the show would carry the same amount of weight on both of their resumes. For one of them to benefit more from their part in the show, wouldn&#039;t one of them have to be the star, and have the other listed as a supporting role? That&#039;s not how I&#039;ve ever seen or heard of them being billed. Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-15/#comment-32530</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone has the right to voice their opinions, but everyone also has the right to react to those opinions. Deangirls were SAVAGED in season one, for saying he probably should have a place in the plot or his mentor role was gonna become irrelevant once Sam grew up. Samgirls, unfortunately, are now reaping what their predecessors sowed back then, as this savaging set the precedent for the way the fandom would handle show concrit... although no debate I see going on is anywhere near as bad as some of the things I saw leveled at Dean fans back then. Gosh, you&#039;d think we drank the blood of puppies, when all we were doing was talking about story structure! *laughs* Fandom is a crazy place sometimes.  
 
Anyway, yeah... as for the video, I bet it&#039;s better to be the top credited star of a show than to have a little outtake tacked on to the end of the episode. Jared&#039;s still coming out on top, as far as resume building goes.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has the right to voice their opinions, but everyone also has the right to react to those opinions. Deangirls were SAVAGED in season one, for saying he probably should have a place in the plot or his mentor role was gonna become irrelevant once Sam grew up. Samgirls, unfortunately, are now reaping what their predecessors sowed back then, as this savaging set the precedent for the way the fandom would handle show concrit&#8230; although no debate I see going on is anywhere near as bad as some of the things I saw leveled at Dean fans back then. Gosh, you&#039;d think we drank the blood of puppies, when all we were doing was talking about story structure! *laughs* Fandom is a crazy place sometimes.  </p>
<p>Anyway, yeah&#8230; as for the video, I bet it&#039;s better to be the top credited star of a show than to have a little outtake tacked on to the end of the episode. Jared&#039;s still coming out on top, as far as resume building goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-14/#comment-32529</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as long as it&#039;s positivity towards Jared, that&#039;s fantastic, and more power to everyone doing that. I&#039;ve just seen too much hatred towards Kripke, and even Jensen, coming alongside the wish to see more of Jared. It&#039;s not gonna hurt HIM, because he&#039;s not the one being accused (probably falsely) of things, but hatred toward them, in the name of Jared, based on nothing but a fan&#039;s own dislike of a storyline? It doesn&#039;t sit well with me. But then, obviously those fans can do whatever they want. *shrugs* I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s really fair to lay blame the way some people do, when no one actually knows what&#039;s going on.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as long as it&#039;s positivity towards Jared, that&#039;s fantastic, and more power to everyone doing that. I&#039;ve just seen too much hatred towards Kripke, and even Jensen, coming alongside the wish to see more of Jared. It&#039;s not gonna hurt HIM, because he&#039;s not the one being accused (probably falsely) of things, but hatred toward them, in the name of Jared, based on nothing but a fan&#039;s own dislike of a storyline? It doesn&#039;t sit well with me. But then, obviously those fans can do whatever they want. *shrugs* I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s really fair to lay blame the way some people do, when no one actually knows what&#039;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-14/#comment-32528</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to confess, I don&#039;t understand the hostile way the majority of your posts read. Are the &quot;certain fans&quot; who don&#039;t think that video necessarily belonged in that slot somehow less deserving of a voice than you or the people who agree with you are? Do the people who don&#039;t agree with the direction this season has taken not have the right to voice that opinion? There&#039;s no rule that says we all have to agree, or that one group is right and the other is wrong. In my opinion, Sylvia&#039;s reviews are as balanced as the episodes allow them to be. If it&#039;s a Dean-centric episode, then it only follows that the review will be similarly structured. She is far more objective and reasonable than my own responses to Show usually are, and I enjoy reading her take on things. 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to confess, I don&#039;t understand the hostile way the majority of your posts read. Are the &quot;certain fans&quot; who don&#039;t think that video necessarily belonged in that slot somehow less deserving of a voice than you or the people who agree with you are? Do the people who don&#039;t agree with the direction this season has taken not have the right to voice that opinion? There&#039;s no rule that says we all have to agree, or that one group is right and the other is wrong. In my opinion, Sylvia&#039;s reviews are as balanced as the episodes allow them to be. If it&#039;s a Dean-centric episode, then it only follows that the review will be similarly structured. She is far more objective and reasonable than my own responses to Show usually are, and I enjoy reading her take on things.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-14/#comment-32527</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, well since Sylvia and most people here are &quot;SamGirls&quot; and from what I can tell, believe that the show is somehow plotting against Sam and Jared, I guess it makes sense that certain fans would view this video as wrong.  Personally, I visit many forums and sites, and I didn&#039;t see a single complaint about it from fans of the show (and even fans who had no idea about Supernatural until this video showed up on youtube).  On the contrary, it seems to be a huge hit within fandom and youtube.  I&#039;m certainly not saying that you are not entitled to your opinion.  I just don&#039;t agree that it slights Jared in any way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, well since Sylvia and most people here are &quot;SamGirls&quot; and from what I can tell, believe that the show is somehow plotting against Sam and Jared, I guess it makes sense that certain fans would view this video as wrong.  Personally, I visit many forums and sites, and I didn&#039;t see a single complaint about it from fans of the show (and even fans who had no idea about <a title="Supernatural" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/category/on-screen/current-tv/supernatural/">Supernatural</a> until this video showed up on youtube).  On the contrary, it seems to be a huge hit within fandom and youtube.  I&#039;m certainly not saying that you are not entitled to your opinion.  I just don&#039;t agree that it slights Jared in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-14/#comment-32526</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kripke&#039;s done a pretty good job with both boy&#039;s storylines so far this season, with the exception of YF (ick).  Dean is definitely darker and I think the show has done a great job slowly revealing the changes that have occurred in both boys throughout this season.  It certainly wouldn&#039;t be realistic if Dean was exactly the same as he was in S1.  Unfortunately there will be &quot;fans&quot; who believe that Dean shouldn&#039;t change at all ... that he should just suck it up, go back to the Dean of S1 and be ALL ABOUT SAM again -- so that we could get back to the Sam show already.  *sigh* </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kripke&#039;s done a pretty good job with both boy&#039;s storylines so far this season, with the exception of YF (ick).  Dean is definitely darker and I think the show has done a great job slowly revealing the changes that have occurred in both boys throughout this season.  It certainly wouldn&#039;t be realistic if Dean was exactly the same as he was in S1.  Unfortunately there will be &quot;fans&quot; who believe that Dean shouldn&#039;t change at all &#8230; that he should just suck it up, go back to the Dean of S1 and be ALL ABOUT SAM again &#8212; so that we could get back to the Sam show already.  *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-14/#comment-32524</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you feel that by knocking Kripke and the show that this will prove that Kripke was wrong to send Dean to hell, to include the angels in the mytharc, and to finally give Dean is own mytharc storyline?  Maybe you feel it makes Sam look better if you explain all the ways in which we *should* hate Dean?  &quot;Dean shows emotions -- hate him!  Dean sheds tears -- hate him!  Dean angsts -- hate him!  And see, now that Dean has his own storyline, he no longer loves Sam -- hate him!&quot;  Dean is an emotional guy right now and yeah, he&#039;s showing more of his emotions than he has in the past.  So what?  It&#039;s not some evil plot against Sam just because Kripke wants to explore some of Dean&#039;s issues right now.  [to be continued...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you feel that by knocking Kripke and the show that this will prove that Kripke was wrong to send Dean to hell, to include the angels in the mytharc, and to finally give Dean is own mytharc storyline?  Maybe you feel it makes Sam look better if you explain all the ways in which we *should* hate Dean?  &quot;Dean shows emotions &#8212; hate him!  Dean sheds tears &#8212; hate him!  Dean angsts &#8212; hate him!  And see, now that Dean has his own storyline, he no longer loves Sam &#8212; hate him!&quot;  Dean is an emotional guy right now and yeah, he&#039;s showing more of his emotions than he has in the past.  So what?  It&#039;s not some evil plot against Sam just because Kripke wants to explore some of Dean&#039;s issues right now.  [to be continued...]</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t hate Dean, I&#039;m tired of him. Tired of having to constantly see the story through his psyche since it never develops. And that&#039;s why I&#039;m not watching anymore. And seeing that many have the same problems with this arc that I have, I don&#039;t think you can blame only the audience, or even what you call Dean-hate for the reactions to it. &quot; 
 
Hmm.  And yet every single post of yours is dedicated to criticism of Dean and suggests that there&#039;s some sort of evil plot by Kripke against Sam/Jared or something.  I&#039;ve gotta tell you, it&#039;s totally ridiculous to me.  And it appears to me that you do hate Dean for whatever reason.  So I&#039;m not blaming &quot;the audience&quot; for your *personal* reaction, because I certainly believe it is extreme and atypical, at least among the fans who love BOTH brothers.  [to be continued...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I don&#039;t hate Dean, I&#039;m tired of him. Tired of having to constantly see the story through his psyche since it never develops. And that&#039;s why I&#039;m not watching anymore. And seeing that many have the same problems with this arc that I have, I don&#039;t think you can blame only the audience, or even what you call Dean-hate for the reactions to it. &quot; </p>
<p>Hmm.  And yet every single post of yours is dedicated to criticism of Dean and suggests that there&#039;s some sort of evil plot by Kripke against Sam/Jared or something.  I&#039;ve gotta tell you, it&#039;s totally ridiculous to me.  And it appears to me that you do hate Dean for whatever reason.  So I&#039;m not blaming &quot;the audience&quot; for your *personal* reaction, because I certainly believe it is extreme and atypical, at least among the fans who love BOTH brothers.  [to be continued...]</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-14/#comment-32522</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared has been pushing for evil!Sam for a long time, you&#039;re right. I don&#039;t doubt that he&#039;s sincere about that. He&#039;s offered that bit of information up unprompted too often for it not to have some truth to it. What I would question is his happiness with this season, and the way it has played out for Sam so far. Like I said, I don&#039;t claim to know what goes on in his head. But if I were him, and if they really are kept in the dark about future plans for episodes as much as they&#039;ve said they are, I can&#039;t say that I would be thrilled with what has transpired thus far. 
 
I agree with Sylvia. Even if Jared is genuinely, sincerely happy with everything about Show, it can&#039;t hurt his self-esteem any to see the fans clamoring to see more of him. He seems to love what he does for a living, and if people want to see more of him, that&#039;s proof he&#039;s doing it well. Nothing wrong with letting him know that. He deserves to know. 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared has been pushing for evil!Sam for a long time, you&#039;re right. I don&#039;t doubt that he&#039;s sincere about that. He&#039;s offered that bit of information up unprompted too often for it not to have some truth to it. What I would question is his happiness with this season, and the way it has played out for Sam so far. Like I said, I don&#039;t claim to know what goes on in his head. But if I were him, and if they really are kept in the dark about future plans for episodes as much as they&#039;ve said they are, I can&#039;t say that I would be thrilled with what has transpired thus far. </p>
<p>I agree with Sylvia. Even if Jared is genuinely, sincerely happy with everything about Show, it can&#039;t hurt his self-esteem any to see the fans clamoring to see more of him. He seems to love what he does for a living, and if people want to see more of him, that&#039;s proof he&#039;s doing it well. Nothing wrong with letting him know that. He deserves to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always used to wonder how Jensen felt, doing such an incredible job and yet still being the sidekick character, so I totally know where you&#039;re coming from. At times, though, I wonder if we aren&#039;t projecting our own dissatisfactions with the way the characters are treated onto the guys. Heaven knows, fandom doesn&#039;t care about the concerns that they actually DO air (mostly: they&#039;re exhausted and want more characters, fandom says &quot;Suck it up!&quot;)... it&#039;s *our* concerns that we&#039;re more interested in.  
 
I dunno, just something to think about. Jared&#039;s been pushing publicly for evil Sam since season 2, so I see no reason to doubt his sincerity about it, but I agree neither boy would probably say it in public if he was unhappy. Whether JA was happy all those years while Dean had nothing to do but tag along after Sam, whether JP is unhappy that Sam&#039;s finally going evil, it&#039;s hard to say.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always used to wonder how Jensen felt, doing such an incredible job and yet still being the sidekick character, so I totally know where you&#039;re coming from. At times, though, I wonder if we aren&#039;t projecting our own dissatisfactions with the way the characters are treated onto the guys. Heaven knows, fandom doesn&#039;t care about the concerns that they actually DO air (mostly: they&#039;re exhausted and want more characters, fandom says &quot;Suck it up!&quot;)&#8230; it&#039;s *our* concerns that we&#039;re more interested in.  </p>
<p>I dunno, just something to think about. Jared&#039;s been pushing publicly for evil Sam since season 2, so I see no reason to doubt his sincerity about it, but I agree neither boy would probably say it in public if he was unhappy. Whether JA was happy all those years while Dean had nothing to do but tag along after Sam, whether JP is unhappy that Sam&#039;s finally going evil, it&#039;s hard to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Writing From the Inside &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oh, Hai&#8230;.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writing From the Inside &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oh, Hai&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] surprise, the number of posts over at Pink Raygun, following my most recent ep review of &#8220;On the Head of a Pin.&#8221; While I&#8217;m not going to take credit for the discussion that has taken off on its own, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] surprise, the number of posts over at <a title="Pink Raygun" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/pink-raygun/">Pink Raygun</a>, following my most recent ep review of &#8220;On the Head of a Pin.&#8221; While I&#8217;m not going to take credit for the discussion that has taken off on its own, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does Dean even love Sam?&quot; 
 
Seriously?  So because Dean has his own issues and is struggling this season, suddenly he doesn&#039;t love Sam?  That&#039;s just ridiculous. 
 
BOTH boys have cried.  BOTH boys have angsted over their issues.  So what?  How does Dean&#039;s angsting take away from Sam in any way?  I didn&#039;t feel that Sam crying and angsting in Playthings took away from Dean in any way. 
 
Sam has certainly wallowed in self-pity about Jess, about everyone around him dying, about his demon blood, about going evil.  He sure has. 
 
And wasn&#039;t it Dean who has told Sam that he&#039;s proud of him (Scarecrow)?  And wasn&#039;t it Sam who didn&#039;t like who Dean was in S3 and he told him he wanted his big-brother back (Fresh Blood)? 
 
Dean isn&#039;t perfect, nor would I expect him to be.  But there&#039;s certainly more to him than angst.  And I guess if Sam is just staying with Dean out of guilt, then you are correct, Sam would be better off leaving.  I&#039;m sure Dean wouldn&#039;t want Sam to stay with him because he feels he owes Dean. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Does Dean even love Sam?&quot; </p>
<p>Seriously?  So because Dean has his own issues and is struggling this season, suddenly he doesn&#039;t love Sam?  That&#039;s just ridiculous. </p>
<p>BOTH boys have cried.  BOTH boys have angsted over their issues.  So what?  How does Dean&#039;s angsting take away from Sam in any way?  I didn&#039;t feel that Sam crying and angsting in Playthings took away from Dean in any way. </p>
<p>Sam has certainly wallowed in self-pity about Jess, about everyone around him dying, about his demon blood, about going evil.  He sure has. </p>
<p>And wasn&#039;t it Dean who has told Sam that he&#039;s proud of him (Scarecrow)?  And wasn&#039;t it Sam who didn&#039;t like who Dean was in S3 and he told him he wanted his big-brother back (Fresh Blood)? </p>
<p>Dean isn&#039;t perfect, nor would I expect him to be.  But there&#039;s certainly more to him than angst.  And I guess if Sam is just staying with Dean out of guilt, then you are correct, Sam would be better off leaving.  I&#039;m sure Dean wouldn&#039;t want Sam to stay with him because he feels he owes Dean.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-13/#comment-32516</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It doesn&#039;t give the character opportunity to grow, it just puts things on him, like a new layer of paint. And that&#039;s what tires me most; Dean is going nowhere, he&#039;s stagnant and that is not interesting.&quot; 
 
I find Dean&#039;s storyline totally fascinating this season.  He FINALLY isn&#039;t just all about SAM and SAM&#039;S destiny.  I appreciate that the angels have forced Dean to reexamine his stance on his faith and of angels and God.  And yeah, he keeps getting punched in the gut and put through the wringer and yet he finds a way to keep going.  I&#039;m fascinated by Dean&#039;s struggles to deal with a world (including Sam) that changed while he was away.  I am really enjoying watching him try to manage all of the external forces around him as they try to break him and upset the brotherly dynamic and I love that the brother&#039;s relationship has been shaken up.  Perhaps what doesn&#039;t kill him will make him stronger!   The season isn&#039;t over yet.  It&#039;s juicy stuff.  And Jensen has been knocking it out of the park every damn episode with his performances. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It doesn&#039;t give the character opportunity to grow, it just puts things on him, like a new layer of paint. And that&#039;s what tires me most; Dean is going nowhere, he&#039;s stagnant and that is not interesting.&quot; </p>
<p>I find Dean&#039;s storyline totally fascinating this season.  He FINALLY isn&#039;t just all about SAM and SAM&#039;S destiny.  I appreciate that the angels have forced Dean to reexamine his stance on his faith and of angels and God.  And yeah, he keeps getting punched in the gut and put through the wringer and yet he finds a way to keep going.  I&#039;m fascinated by Dean&#039;s struggles to deal with a world (including Sam) that changed while he was away.  I am really enjoying watching him try to manage all of the external forces around him as they try to break him and upset the brotherly dynamic and I love that the brother&#039;s relationship has been shaken up.  Perhaps what doesn&#039;t kill him will make him stronger!   The season isn&#039;t over yet.  It&#039;s juicy stuff.  And Jensen has been knocking it out of the park every damn episode with his performances.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/24/supernatural-on-the-head-of-a-pin/comment-page-13/#comment-32515</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, instead of more commercials, or the video, I would have preferred that they put those minutes into the story where they belonged, and where they would have done the most good. The video was great, and I&#039;m very glad we got to see it.  
 
As far as the reviewers and comments that were made, maybe it was all down to where you looked. I remember having a conversation here, with Sylvia, about how the video was hilarious and wonderful and unless they did something similar with Jared as the star, it was wrong, unbalanced, and out of line for them to put that video on the end of an episode instead of the gag reel or DVDs. 10 episodes down the line, there&#039;s been no change in the balance of the show, and despite several more shorter than they should have been episodes, there has been no Jared counterpart to that video. 
 
 I&#039;m not trying to tell anyone who liked the video and thought it was perfect that they&#039;re wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I&#039;m just telling you why I thought it was wrong. 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, instead of more commercials, or the video, I would have preferred that they put those minutes into the story where they belonged, and where they would have done the most good. The video was great, and I&#039;m very glad we got to see it.  </p>
<p>As far as the reviewers and comments that were made, maybe it was all down to where you looked. I remember having a conversation here, with Sylvia, about how the video was hilarious and wonderful and unless they did something similar with Jared as the star, it was wrong, unbalanced, and out of line for them to put that video on the end of an episode instead of the gag reel or DVDs. 10 episodes down the line, there&#039;s been no change in the balance of the show, and despite several more shorter than they should have been episodes, there has been no Jared counterpart to that video. </p>
<p> I&#039;m not trying to tell anyone who liked the video and thought it was perfect that they&#039;re wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I&#039;m just telling you why I thought it was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenVL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The show basically jumped the shark with the entire 40 years in Hell storyline, simply too much. As is Angels aving Dean and watching out for him while he cries and battles his self-esteem. It&#039;s been done to death already. dean&#039;s story has nothing new,&quot; 
 
Nah.  Adding the angels to the mytharc and Dean&#039;s hell storyline has been wonderful for the show.  We already had demons who were ready to follow super-special Sam because he is the Demon King-to-be.  We&#039;ve seen Sam pull the woe is me card time and time again as well.  So I think the angels have been a great addition and have expanded the mythology.  In fact, in reading mainstream media reviews, it seems to me that most feel Dean&#039;s angel storyline has been the best part of this season and I love how they have integrated Castiel&#039;s storyline into the show and I find Dean and Castiel&#039;s ever evolving relationship totally fascinating.  And thank goodness the ratings for those first few episodes of this season were so great that the the CW decided not to cancel it after this season.  Yay!   
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The show basically jumped the shark with the entire 40 years in Hell storyline, simply too much. As is Angels aving Dean and watching out for him while he cries and battles his self-esteem. It&#039;s been done to death already. dean&#039;s story has nothing new,&quot; </p>
<p>Nah.  Adding the angels to the mytharc and Dean&#039;s hell storyline has been wonderful for the show.  We already had demons who were ready to follow super-special Sam because he is the Demon King-to-be.  We&#039;ve seen Sam pull the woe is me card time and time again as well.  So I think the angels have been a great addition and have expanded the mythology.  In fact, in reading mainstream media reviews, it seems to me that most feel Dean&#039;s angel storyline has been the best part of this season and I love how they have integrated Castiel&#039;s storyline into the show and I find Dean and Castiel&#039;s ever evolving relationship totally fascinating.  And thank goodness the ratings for those first few episodes of this season were so great that the the CW decided not to cancel it after this season.  Yay!</p>
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