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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-2/#comment-32236</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. Duh. Thanks! </description>
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		<title>By: pinkraygun</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-2/#comment-32217</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkraygun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you click on Josh&#039;s name above his comment, the link will bring you right to his blog. 
 
Or you can just copy/paste this 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://boregenerations.blogspot.com/2009/03/script-to-screen-kings-pilot.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://boregenerations.blogspot.com/2009/03/scrip...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you click on Josh&#039;s name above his comment, the link will bring you right to his blog. </p>
<p>Or you can just copy/paste this </p>
<p><a href="http://boregenerations.blogspot.com/2009/03/script-to-screen-kings-pilot.html" target="_blank">http://boregenerations.blogspot.com/2009/03/scrip&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-2/#comment-32215</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And again, I ask: where is it?  </description>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-2/#comment-32198</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! WHere is it? 
 
I just read somewhere that this show as at one point intended to replace ER in the Thursday Night Lineup, but given it&#039;s terribly awful ratings on sunday... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! WHere is it? </p>
<p>I just read somewhere that this show as at one point intended to replace ER in the Thursday Night Lineup, but given it&#039;s terribly awful ratings on sunday&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-1/#comment-32197</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone&#039;s interested, I just posted a blog about the differences I noticed between the script I read and the episode that aired. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone&#039;s interested, I just posted a blog about the differences I noticed between the script I read and the episode that aired.</p>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-1/#comment-32166</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t actually think they&#039;re trying to bust the evils of a male-centered world wide open, when it comes right down to it. Bottom line is that they&#039;re telling an updated version of the story of King David, which is one of the central tales of western society, and has been for millenia. I don&#039;t think they intend to be culture warriors about it, they&#039;re simply telling one of the root stories of the west in a new and entertaining fashion.  Assuming they stick close to the source material (Which they&#039;ve already diverged from considerably), the fact is women won&#039;t have too much of a role because there are no particularly prominent women in the story. Excepting, perhaps, Abagail and Bathsheba. And maybe the witch of Endor (And I don&#039;t know why I think this, but for some reason I suspect the king&#039;s mistress is going to be the witch) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#039;t actually think they&#039;re trying to bust the evils of a male-centered world wide open, when it comes right down to it. Bottom line is that they&#039;re telling an updated version of the story of King David, which is one of the central tales of western society, and has been for millenia. I don&#039;t think they intend to be culture warriors about it, they&#039;re simply telling one of the root stories of the west in a new and entertaining fashion.  Assuming they stick close to the source material (Which they&#039;ve already diverged from considerably), the fact is women won&#039;t have too much of a role because there are no particularly prominent women in the story. Excepting, perhaps, Abagail and Bathsheba. And maybe the witch of Endor (And I don&#039;t know why I think this, but for some reason I suspect the king&#039;s mistress is going to be the witch)</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, but that&#039;s where it really bothers me.  Why must the women be behind the throne?  Why can&#039;t they be &lt;i&gt;on&lt;/i&gt; it?  I realize that it&#039;s only the first episode (or two, depending on how you count such things), but the only woman we&#039;ve seen who has what I consider autonomy is Mama Shepherd. 
 
If they are, in fact, trying to shine a light on the inequities of patriarchy, I really hope they get to it soon.  I can only take so much of &quot;There, there, little woman, don&#039;t worry your pretty little head&quot; before I have to walk away.  Or punch the TV, but that&#039;s painful and expensive.  :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, but that&#039;s where it really bothers me.  Why must the women be behind the throne?  Why can&#039;t they be <i>on</i> it?  I realize that it&#039;s only the first episode (or two, depending on how you count such things), but the only woman we&#039;ve seen who has what I consider autonomy is Mama Shepherd. </p>
<p>If they are, in fact, trying to shine a light on the inequities of patriarchy, I really hope they get to it soon.  I can only take so much of &quot;There, there, little woman, don&#039;t worry your pretty little head&quot; before I have to walk away.  Or punch the TV, but that&#039;s painful and expensive.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I really liked most of that stuff, too, but I suspect the women will be playing more of a role as the show goes on. I don&#039;t know how closely they&#039;re going to follow the source material (My hunch is not too closely), but there&#039;s plenty of room for some of the women to become &quot;The power behind the throne&quot; kinds of things.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I really liked most of that stuff, too, but I suspect the women will be playing more of a role as the show goes on. I don&#039;t know how closely they&#039;re going to follow the source material (My hunch is not too closely), but there&#039;s plenty of room for some of the women to become &quot;The power behind the throne&quot; kinds of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliana Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliana Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it could be trying to comment on patriarchy, and maybe even to some extent vilifying it, but in my opinion, the pilot supports the notion of patriarchy. 
 
The real power struggles are between men -- the king (obviously), the king&#039;s brother-in-law, the king&#039;s son, the preacher, and David. Also, I may be wrong, but I believe the king&#039;s panel (or whatever) largely, if not entirely, consisted of men. Sure, the princess spoke up about health care, but they make a point of the fact that she wasn&#039;t taken seriously. As far as the promos show, it seems that her purpose in the story is as the romantic interest. The king&#039;s wife certainly makes no play for power, instead she supports her son&#039;s attempt for power. And the king&#039;s mistress also makes no play for power, instead she supports his power. I would not be surprised if ultimately the princess takes a back seat and supports David&#039;s power. In the end, the women appear happy to let the men run the show. 
 
That being said, I really like the princess character, and I hope they make use of her. I also loved the twist on the party boy. It made what could have been a very boring character really interesting. And I found the king&#039;s mistress interesting. I would love to understand more about what goes on in her head. 
 
To me, it&#039;s an exploration of patriarchy as well as the women who (knowingly or not) support it, and I do find that interesting. Plus kings, princesses and god-sent butterflies are all really cool. Overall, I loved the show and will be tuning in again. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it could be trying to comment on patriarchy, and maybe even to some extent vilifying it, but in my opinion, the pilot supports the notion of patriarchy. </p>
<p>The real power struggles are between men &#8212; the king (obviously), the king&#039;s brother-in-law, the king&#039;s son, the preacher, and David. Also, I may be wrong, but I believe the king&#039;s panel (or whatever) largely, if not entirely, consisted of men. Sure, the princess spoke up about health care, but they make a point of the fact that she wasn&#039;t taken seriously. As far as the promos show, it seems that her purpose in the story is as the romantic interest. The king&#039;s wife certainly makes no play for power, instead she supports her son&#039;s attempt for power. And the king&#039;s mistress also makes no play for power, instead she supports his power. I would not be surprised if ultimately the princess takes a back seat and supports David&#039;s power. In the end, the women appear happy to let the men run the show. </p>
<p>That being said, I really like the princess character, and I hope they make use of her. I also loved the twist on the party boy. It made what could have been a very boring character really interesting. And I found the king&#039;s mistress interesting. I would love to understand more about what goes on in her head. </p>
<p>To me, it&#039;s an exploration of patriarchy as well as the women who (knowingly or not) support it, and I do find that interesting. Plus kings, princesses and god-sent butterflies are all really cool. Overall, I loved the show and will be tuning in again.</p>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin - 
 
I gotta&#039; feel you&#039;re way off here: &quot;Shiloh&quot; is clearly, clearly, clearly intended to be an alternate-world version of New York City, which has been rebuilt after having lain in ruins for generations. Even the dumbasses over at Republibot got that right. Whether there ever was a &quot;New York City&quot; in this universe, or wether it was called &quot;Shiloh&quot; before it got destroyed, dunno. I think The Vinyard was probably Long Island.  
 
Also, *maybe* the point of the show is to comment on the inequities of a heavy-handed patriarchy? In which case you&#039;ve got to set that up onscreen before you can tear it down. And King Silas flat out said he believed in God *and* evolution, and his speech made it very clear that he personally didn&#039;t care about his son&#039;s orientation (Even going so far as to say it&#039;s the way God made him!), simply that it was unacceptable if he intended a political career.  
 
Nothing evangelical in *any* of that.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin &#8211; </p>
<p>I gotta&#039; feel you&#039;re way off here: &quot;Shiloh&quot; is clearly, clearly, clearly intended to be an alternate-world version of <a title="New York City" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/new-york-city/">New York City</a>, which has been rebuilt after having lain in ruins for generations. Even the dumbasses over at Republibot got that right. Whether there ever was a &quot;New York City&quot; in this universe, or wether it was called &quot;Shiloh&quot; before it got destroyed, dunno. I think The Vinyard was probably Long Island.  </p>
<p>Also, *maybe* the point of the show is to comment on the inequities of a heavy-handed patriarchy? In which case you&#039;ve got to set that up onscreen before you can tear it down. And King Silas flat out said he believed in God *and* evolution, and his speech made it very clear that he personally didn&#039;t care about his son&#039;s orientation (Even going so far as to say it&#039;s the way God made him!), simply that it was unacceptable if he intended a political career.  </p>
<p>Nothing evangelical in *any* of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin -- 
 
While Gilboa is definitely meant to reflect the U.S. in certain ways, I don&#039;t yet get the feel that it&#039;s intended to be so literal in terms of geography, a la Alvin Maker or something like that. But what do I know? It is just the pilot, after all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin &#8212; </p>
<p>While Gilboa is definitely meant to reflect the U.S. in certain ways, I don&#039;t yet get the feel that it&#039;s intended to be so literal in terms of geography, a la Alvin Maker or something like that. But what do I know? It is just the pilot, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m rather intrigued by the alternate universe concept, less so by the society portrayed within it.  The heavy-handed patriarchy inevitably (at least on American TV) leads to sexism and homophobia.  ::sigh:: 
 
The main thing that kept tripping me up was trying to figure out the geography of the world of &lt;i&gt;Kings&lt;/i&gt;.  I&#039;m assuming that the capital city is Shiloh, Alabama, but I don&#039;t think we can equate the Gilboa/Gath war with the American Civil War, because the go to &quot;the Vineyard&quot;, which means Martha&#039;s Vineyard, Massachusetts in our world.  So what are the national boundaries?  When and where were the lines drawn?  Has the lack of a united United States influenced the rest of the global culture?  Looks like I&#039;ll have to keep watching in order to find out.  (Ah ha.  So that&#039;s the writers&#039; dastardly plan.  And it&#039;s working too.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m rather intrigued by the alternate universe concept, less so by the society portrayed within it.  The heavy-handed patriarchy inevitably (at least on American TV) leads to sexism and homophobia.  ::sigh:: </p>
<p>The main thing that kept tripping me up was trying to figure out the geography of the world of <i>Kings</i>.  I&#039;m assuming that the capital city is Shiloh, Alabama, but I don&#039;t think we can equate the Gilboa/Gath war with the American Civil War, because the go to &quot;the Vineyard&quot;, which means Martha&#039;s Vineyard, Massachusetts in our world.  So what are the national boundaries?  When and where were the lines drawn?  Has the lack of a united United States influenced the rest of the global culture?  Looks like I&#039;ll have to keep watching in order to find out.  (Ah ha.  So that&#039;s the writers&#039; dastardly plan.  And it&#039;s working too.)</p>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/03/15/auto-pilot-a-review-of-the-kings-pilot-script/comment-page-1/#comment-32115</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will we be getting a formal review on Pink Raygun? Because I think it really deserved it. I was particularly moved by the confrontation on the steps when Gay Prince Jack gets dressed down by his dad. The way &quot;Jack&quot; played it was pretty amazing - he goes white, he gets the shakes, he actually starts to tear up while his dad is talking to him. That was pretty amazing acting...and everyone on the show was good.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will we be getting a formal review on <a title="Pink Raygun" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/pink-raygun/">Pink Raygun</a>? Because I think it really deserved it. I was particularly moved by the confrontation on the steps when Gay Prince Jack gets dressed down by his dad. The way &quot;Jack&quot; played it was pretty amazing &#8211; he goes white, he gets the shakes, he actually starts to tear up while his dad is talking to him. That was pretty amazing acting&#8230;and everyone on the show was good.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. For the most part I think they did a great job translating what was great on the page into a fantastic pilot. What I&#039;m most curious about... How did a 64 page script become a two-hour pilot? Because with a very few exceptions, what was on the page made it to the screen. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. For the most part I think they did a great job translating what was great on the page into a fantastic pilot. What I&#039;m most curious about&#8230; How did a 64 page script become a two-hour pilot? Because with a very few exceptions, what was on the page made it to the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: El Mysterioso</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Mysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really looking forward to this show. There&#039;s never actually been a dedicated paralell world/alternate history show on American TV before. A few episodes of SF series here and there, sure, but never a start-to-finish &quot;Same world, different history&quot; series before this. And beyond that, the premise looks pretty intriguing.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m really looking forward to this show. There&#039;s never actually been a dedicated paralell world/<a title="alternate history" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/alternate-history/">alternate history</a> show on American TV before. A few episodes of SF series here and there, sure, but never a start-to-finish &quot;Same world, different history&quot; series before this. And beyond that, the premise looks pretty intriguing.</p>
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