Comments on: Cylon Says: BSG – Islanded in a Stream of Stars

By: El Mysterioso

El Mysterioso — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:12:02 +0000

This show's cut-rate low-budget "edgy" version of the Ship of Lights is that damn Rebel Cylon Base Ship. The angels or ship of lights aliens or seraphs or whatever the hell they're called are the Final Five. I still feel the Final Five/Aliens were kinda' clever, but I couldn't help being disappointed by their take on the Ship Of Lights.

And, hey, why no planet Terra? I'd much rather see a Terra spinoff than this "Craprica" thing they're tossing around.

By: El Mysterioso

El Mysterioso — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:09:26 +0000

Ah, thank you!

By: AlphaGirl

AlphaGirl — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:50:35 +0000

I've been keeping my fingers crossed for the Ship of Lights for about a year (they're starting to cramp).

By: pinkraygun

pinkraygun — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:22:45 +0000

I remember seeing your post here myself, but am at a loss as to what happened to it. I'm providing a copy/paste from my email notification below.

El Mysterios Said: "Oh, and one of the problems I had with the show from the outset was that Starbuck struck me as yet another case of a dude writing a female character to be "Empowered," which means basically that she acts exactly like a dude without a penis. Having been in the service, I've served alongside a lot of females, and that's just not how they behave. This always annoyed me, particularly since so many women seemed to buy in to the whole "She drinks and cusses and screws just like a man, therefore they take her seriously" thing. "

By: El Mysterios

El Mysterios — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:17:38 +0000

Starbuck is the first hybrid. Hybrids can project – which we've seen Starbuck do twice now – and they seem generally superior in terms of reflexes and strength, yet they can reproduce biologically, which gives them advantages over both humans and cylons. It follows that they can probably resurrect, provided some kind of gear is available.

The only real question remaining in the show is who is it that's been manipulating them these last 5 years? Can't be God, so who is it? Clearly, whomever it is has a working resurrection node and access to factory showroom vipers.

By: El Mysterios

El Mysterios — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:14:12 +0000

Interesting. I put another email up here when I posted the one above about how I never thought Starbuck was written all that well, and the reasoning behind that being the "Major Kira" syndrome of some dudes writing what they think an assirtive woman acts like, rather than what women think one acts like (I'm sure I didn't use those words, it's been a week, I forget). Anyway, it's been deleted. How come?

By: dreamrot

dreamrot — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:03:51 +0000

It's scary right now. There seems like there is just still so much that needs to be accomplished before this thing can end. Most importantly, IS STARBUCK A WITCH OR NOT??? Maybe she's a zombie. I don't know. It's the only really interesting question left. They found Earth, they revealed the last cylon. Explain wtf Starbuck's deal is and lets move on with our lives.

With the exception of a few brief moments, the show hasn't even been very good since Pegasus. What was that, a decade ago now? I've just invested way too much time to stop watching. With so little left, I have to see it through to the end. It just does leave me with a lot of goodwill towards their little Caprica spin-off.

By: WolfenM

WolfenM — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:39:28 +0000

On the upside, because of Show, I met James Callis. Totally worth it. Now if Baltar would get more than a few minutes of screentime in the last eps ….

Also, while I couldn't understand Adama being so harsh, Helo's begging to be allowed save his daughter was very touching. As was Baltar's broken-hearted look with how Caprica treated him.

By: Robin

Robin — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:34:01 +0000

Sadly, the strongest impressions that I took away from this episode were "relationships lead to misery and death", and "Auntie Boomer sucks". After the almost-revelation at the end of last week, I was really hoping for some strong plot-forwarding. I was mostly disappointed. The only bright spot was well-groomed Lee in his snazzy pinstriped suit.

By: El Mysterioso

El Mysterioso — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:44:14 +0000

Oh, and one of the problems I had with the show from the outset was that Starbuck struck me as yet another case of a dude writing a female character to be "Empowered," which means basically that she acts exactly like a dude without a penis. Having been in the service, I've served alongside a lot of females, and that's just not how they behave. This always annoyed me, particularly since so many women seemed to buy in to the whole "She drinks and cusses and screws just like a man, therefore they take her seriously" thing.

By: El Mysterioso

El Mysterioso — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:40:42 +0000

When you think about it, all three galactica shows have been utter messes – the original one never had a focus, the 1980 never had a clue, and the new one really did seem to be all over the place and on the verge of the narative falling apart. In the case of the first show and this one, I think that 'nearly fraying to bits' quality helped them – there's a desparate energy in a production who's cast and crew are trying to keep it on the rails, and that translates in to good TV that you can't get in a more professional production. When it goes bad – the 1980 show – well, it goes really really bad of course.

I was slow to warm up to this show, and I've been slow to cool on it, but I'm coming around to your way of thinking. There's a whole lot of waiting out the clock here, and not much in the way of story or development. And the big show-down is just going to be the Galactica kamikaziing into the big new Cylon Death Star in the final episode.

Yawn.

By: Bob

Bob — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:25:01 +0000

An era is about to end! I liked that the PRES and the Admiral lit up.

By: TrinityVixen

TrinityVixen — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:23:19 +0000

The problem for me is that I realized that women were never exalted for classically 'feminine' attributes. The women that amazed were those who appropriated 'masculine' characteristics. Fail to be manly enough (fail to have THE BALLS in other words) and the show rips you apart.

By: AlphaGirl

AlphaGirl — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:36:44 +0000

Same here, along with the argument that the men aren't treated any differently, and the women really aren't that bad off. As if putting a gun in her hand is enough to make her strong, even when said gun is pointed at her own head.

By: TrinityVixen

TrinityVixen — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:28:02 +0000

UGH. I tried. I really, really tried to point out to some people on message boards about how this show has let itself go*, and all I got was "You're just never satisfied." Actually? I was totally satisfied for like a season and a half, and then for parts of season three and the first part of season four. But they stopped trying. They stopped pretending that they aren't just waiting out the clock. There are tons of reveals and stuff we could get into that they're not getting into in favor of cramming everything in at the last minute.

Pacing. That's the problem here. The first season of this show sucked me in immediately because it was something new, something more, every week, every hour, every minute. They built well, but they have no idea how to pack up and fold the story. The guys from LOST could have really helped them out, methinks. That's how you work mystery and unravel it at the same time.

*-I tried mentioning how the women on the show have been victimized, marginalized, invalidated, and needlessly killed off with alarming and increasing frequency. This, more than any other objection, got me shouted down as being overly sensitive and never satisfied. I don't see why I should have to accept imitation, knock-off crap from a show that gave me season one Starbuck and President Secretary of Education Laura Roslin.