Comments on: Dollhouse: Ghost http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/ "Failure is not an option...If you feel the need to vomit up there, just swallow it." - Kitty Farmer, Donnie Darko Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:17:08 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Blog@Newsarama » Blog Archive » Dollhouse http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-31339 Blog@Newsarama » Blog Archive » Dollhouse Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:58:15 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-31339 [...] enough not to insult my intelligence. I found a few interesting takes on the first episode here, here and particularly here and an interview with Whedon [...] [...] enough not to insult my intelligence. I found a few interesting takes on the first episode here, here and particularly here and an interview with Whedon [...]

]]> By: Jeff http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-31050 Jeff Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:15:18 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-31050 In comparison to Buffy's pilot, I actually thought this pilot to was pretty strong. I mean, when I went back and watched Buffy's pilot, I realized that it was a long way from the show Buffy became. In comparison to Buffy's pilot, I actually thought this pilot to was pretty strong. I mean, when I went back and watched Buffy's pilot, I realized that it was a long way from the show Buffy became.

]]> By: AlphaGirl http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-31031 AlphaGirl Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:53:56 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-31031 There are more photos of a shirtless Tahmoh Penikett <a href="http://www.dollhousetvforum.com/photoplog/index.php?c=5" target="_blank">here</a>. Pink Raygun is not responsible for drool on your keyboard. There are more photos of a shirtless Tahmoh Penikett here.

Pink Raygun is not responsible for drool on your keyboard.

]]> By: Robin http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-30892 Robin Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:36:10 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-30892 I liked it. Going in, I was mildly spoilered, so it was fun watching my friends have moments of recognition. ("That's Helo!" "Hey, is that Fred from <i>Angel</i>?") For my own part, I liked the rollercoaster ride of following Caroline / party girl / Echo / Eleanor through her many permutations. Given just those four personalities, I have high hopes for the future of the series. Well, that and Topher, the most Whedon-y character of the bunch. I can't help it. I can tell already that I'm going to love the resident energetic geek boy. It's a weakness. I mean come on. "Something fell on me." "I bet it was something really great!" Hilarious. Plus there's the aforementioned shirtless Tahmoh. That just never gets old. Not that he isn't a fine actor. He really is, and I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Agent Ballard, but still... Yum. [/shallow] And even though it bothered me a little, I have to respect Joss for going so on-the-nose by literally putting a girl in a refrigerator. He knows he's going to be accused of doing it figuratively, so he might as well just get it out of the way and say, "Yes, we're addressing that. Let's talk about it in a deeper way." I liked it.

Going in, I was mildly spoilered, so it was fun watching my friends have moments of recognition. ("That's Helo!" "Hey, is that Fred from Angel?") For my own part, I liked the rollercoaster ride of following Caroline / party girl / Echo / Eleanor through her many permutations. Given just those four personalities, I have high hopes for the future of the series.

Well, that and Topher, the most Whedon-y character of the bunch. I can't help it. I can tell already that I'm going to love the resident energetic geek boy. It's a weakness. I mean come on. "Something fell on me." "I bet it was something really great!" Hilarious.

Plus there's the aforementioned shirtless Tahmoh. That just never gets old. Not that he isn't a fine actor. He really is, and I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Agent Ballard, but still… Yum. [/shallow]

And even though it bothered me a little, I have to respect Joss for going so on-the-nose by literally putting a girl in a refrigerator. He knows he's going to be accused of doing it figuratively, so he might as well just get it out of the way and say, "Yes, we're addressing that. Let's talk about it in a deeper way."

]]> By: Teresa http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-30882 Teresa Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:36:20 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-30882 Uh...YES. :) As big a problem I had with the Agent Ballard storyline, I sat there saying "There needs to be a Tahmoh Penikett shirtless and boxing scene in every episode. Just totally a propos of nothing. Every. Episode." :) Uh…YES. :) As big a problem I had with the Agent Ballard storyline, I sat there saying "There needs to be a Tahmoh Penikett shirtless and boxing scene in every episode. Just totally a propos of nothing. Every. Episode." :)

]]> By: AlphaGirl http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-30878 AlphaGirl Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:29:55 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-30878 I wasn't terribly interested until the last five or ten minutes when it got creepy- the kidnapping story just wasn't that engaging for me. But, I have a lot of faith in Joss and I am interested to know why Echo volunteered for this. What could have happened that this was her only choice? Agreed on the Paul Ballard segments (except the parts where Tahmoh Penikett was half-naked and sweaty; if those shorts had hung any lower. . . . ) - I wasn't terribly interested until the last five or ten minutes when it got creepy- the kidnapping story just wasn't that engaging for me. But, I have a lot of faith in Joss and I am interested to know why Echo volunteered for this. What could have happened that this was her only choice? Agreed on the Paul Ballard segments (except the parts where Tahmoh Penikett was half-naked and sweaty; if those shorts had hung any lower. . . . ) -

]]> By: Teresa http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-30863 Teresa Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:31:41 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-30863 Heh - and when I said "first issue", I meant "episode." COMICS HAVE MELTED MY BRAIN!!! :) That is all. Heh – and when I said "first issue", I meant "episode." COMICS HAVE MELTED MY BRAIN!!! :)

That is all.

]]> By: Teresa http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-30864 Teresa Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:31:41 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-30864 Heh - and when I said "first issue", I meant "episode." COMICS HAVE MELTED MY BRAIN!!! :) That is all. Heh – and when I said "first issue", I meant "episode." COMICS HAVE MELTED MY BRAIN!!! :)

That is all.

]]> By: Teresa http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/02/17/dollhouse-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-30862 Teresa Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:30:34 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=5577#comment-30862 I was definitely intrigued by this first issue. I think what I like about it is exactly what several of my friends didn't like about it and made them call it boring. It wasn't "bantery", it wasn't "typical Joss." But why should it be? This ISN'T Buffy, or Serenity, or Angel. It's a more adult, more serious-minded show dealing with issues that those shows wouldn't have dared to touch. This isn't to say this episode wasn't clunky. It was - particularly in the FBI agent segments. They sort of just threw him in there, and all I wanted to do was get back to Echo. Yet, what pilot isn't clunky? I think the only pilot I've seen in recent years that wasn't clunky was the pilot for Lost. But most pilots are setting things up, introducing us to characters, and spoon-feeding us a little bit in order to set us up in a new world. I trust Joss when he says that the plot is going to simmer until about episode 6, when it comes to a boil. And also, if this show ends up not being like Buffy or the others, that's OK. Buffy came out in 1997 and hasn't been on the air since 2003. Firefly hasn't been on the air since 2003. Angel has been off the air since 2004. If Joss HADN'T changed up his storytelling game in the years since, THEN I'd be worried. I was definitely intrigued by this first issue. I think what I like about it is exactly what several of my friends didn't like about it and made them call it boring. It wasn't "bantery", it wasn't "typical Joss." But why should it be? This ISN'T Buffy, or Serenity, or Angel. It's a more adult, more serious-minded show dealing with issues that those shows wouldn't have dared to touch.

This isn't to say this episode wasn't clunky. It was – particularly in the FBI agent segments. They sort of just threw him in there, and all I wanted to do was get back to Echo. Yet, what pilot isn't clunky? I think the only pilot I've seen in recent years that wasn't clunky was the pilot for Lost. But most pilots are setting things up, introducing us to characters, and spoon-feeding us a little bit in order to set us up in a new world.

I trust Joss when he says that the plot is going to simmer until about episode 6, when it comes to a boil. And also, if this show ends up not being like Buffy or the others, that's OK. Buffy came out in 1997 and hasn't been on the air since 2003. Firefly hasn't been on the air since 2003. Angel has been off the air since 2004. If Joss HADN'T changed up his storytelling game in the years since, THEN I'd be worried.

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