Comments on: Top 100 Fictional Femmes of Genre Film and Television, 2008 Edition

By: Blackpanther

Blackpanther — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:44:04 +0000

I like this list, although i think Farscape's Zhaan and the Doctor's Donna should have been included. They're both incredibly compassionate, strong and independent women.

Also, Mary Jane Watson is a damsel in distress, and she pretty much doesn't belong on this list. And Storm is a character that should have been higher on the list. I think Halle Berry is a good choice for Storm, but the fact that she pretty much didn't have anything to do in any of the movies, and the bad writing and directing didn't help at all.

By: mary butt

mary butt — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:37:35 +0000

How about the Halliwell girls (Charmed)? Yes the series was POORLY written, directed and produced, but it was well acted and the girls represented female warriors with lives outside their demon fighting. Piper, to me is worthy of Heroship because she had kids and still fought the demon world. Again, this is not anywhere near Whedon, but in itself worth mentioning. (I had to sit through it cuz the husband loves Allysa Milano)

By: wildofski

wildofski — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:15:13 +0000

You have to go back to the original old Marvel Spiderman comics to meet the original Mary
Jane Watson. The one in the movies is a amalgam of Gwen Stacy & Mary Jane Watson.

By: wildofski

wildofski — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:03:28 +0000

I agree with most of the list, but wheres Faith the (morally ambiguous) Vampire Slayer and Tara
(who taught & mentored Willow to her full potential power)?

By: AlphaGirl

AlphaGirl — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:30 +0000

Part of the list is influence outside the character's own universe (i.e., our own). While Faith and Tara may be significant within the Buffy-verse, and have a high place within the fandom, outside of that, they don't have the recognition of a Buffy or a Buttercup or a Barbarella. Another issue with the list is that we want it to be representative of the available pool, which goes as far back as the 1920s with Metropolis and Aelita: Queen of Mars. There have been milestones for women all along, not just since the 1990s. Including every woman on every Stargate, Star Trek, Buffy, etc would only allow a few things to be represented, which not only isn't true to the concept, but also wouldn't leave room for the women who broke the path to their existence.

By: Kal

Kal — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:22:01 +0000

Too bad you failed to mention how the idiot producers of Stargate Atlantis screwed up Elizabeth Weir by killing her off in a badly written publicity stunt to get rid of actress Torri Higginson so they could replace Weir with Samantha Carter. Then to add insult to injury, they screwed up Carter by wallpapering her into a desk job that kept her from doing all the cool stuff you mentioned!

And why didn't you include Atlantis's Teyla Emmagan? She's the leader of her people, a mother, and a warrior fighting the bad guys, even kicking one off a 50-story high tower!

At least you didn't make the mistake of including the whiny crybaby Jennifer Keller. She's one medical doctor who ought to have her license revoked!

By: Teresa

Teresa — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:45:07 +0000

I agree with every single choice on this list except Mary Jane Watson. The more I read with her in it, and the more I watch the movies, the more I wonder what Peter Parker sees in her and what's so special about her.

Otherwise this was a fun way to wind down after Christmas dinner.

By: AlphaGirl

AlphaGirl — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:29:09 +0000

Part of the list is influence outside the character's own universe (i.e., our own). While Faith and Tara may be significant within the Buffy-verse, and have a high place within the fandom, outside of that, they don't have the recognition of a Buffy or a Buttercup or a Barbarella. Another issue with the list is that we want it to be representative of the available pool, which goes as far back as the 1920s with Metropolis and Aelita: Queen of Mars. There have been milestones for women all along, not just since the 1990s. Including every woman on every Stargate, Star Trek, Buffy, etc would only allow a few things to be represented, which not only isn't true to the concept, wouldn't leave room for the women who broke the path to their existence.