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Astral Projection http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/ 'Accelerated decrepitude." - Pris, Blade Runner Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:40:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: E http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-86856 E Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:24:16 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-86856 I totally agree with Bobby. My first time well the only first time I ever had a O.B.E with out knowing was 3 yrs ago. And what he said is true. I think that in that life form, the past the present and the future are all together. Yet, we are not ALONE. Other beings could be there too. Such as Angels, Aliens etc. It's up to the different dimension you are on. Other than that it was scary yet beautiful at the same time. It's one of the greatest secrets of our human kind universe. :) God bless you All. E I totally agree with Bobby. My first time well the only first time I ever had a O.B.E with out knowing was 3 yrs ago. And what he said is true. I think that in that life form, the past the present and the future are all together. Yet, we are not ALONE. Other beings could be there too. Such as Angels, Aliens etc. It’s up to the different dimension you are on.
Other than that it was scary yet beautiful at the same time. It’s one of the greatest secrets of our human kind universe. :)
God bless you All.
E

]]> By: Bobby http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-80598 Bobby Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:06:09 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-80598 Astral projection is a very real thing. Let me say that i have projected over a dozen times. Most of my experiences you could classify as a typical projection (if there is anything typical about them that is) the abilty to fly and lucid dreaming. however I have had certain dreams that do not fit the typical discription. . . . In fact the first time i projected i had, having never even heard the term before. All I know is I had a very realistic dream one night, so realistic in fact the next day i told my friend about it- I was at this party where i didnt know anyone just general drinking and smoking a great party. I recall how detailed it was not a normal dream is all i kept thinking---- OK here is the not typical part-that week passed and friday after work i was invited by a co-waorker to a party. i go thinking nothing of my dream at all. Once im there i get the most extreme case of deja-vu EVER. the party im at I realized WAS my dream! I was scared it was so real. The deja-vu would hit me nearly every ten minutes and lasted the entire party.It got to the point where all i could do was sit at this party (that apparently i had already attended) and try to remember what happened next in my dream. So that may not be projecting that time i dont know what it was other than true. The other unique projetion was ketamine induced. i was crashing ta a friends house after a long night. Im lying on the floor he is on the other side of his room in his bed. We both do the ketamine and lay down for bed. We are deep in conversation when the k kicks in( and by the way ketamine is a dissasociative not a true anestesthia) allof a sudden my body goes to sleep and my mind was able to stay awake!! I start floating up and out of my body, yet im still talking to my friend explaining to him that im floating on your ceiling!! Get this I litterally see myself telling him that im above my body and was having a conversation in real time with my real body while projecting!!! that was the only time i had a projection more similiar to the expirence of NDE. So yeah. . . . if you have ever heard of some one projecting while awake and having a conversation about sed projection a would love any feedback.--- thanks--- Astral projection is a very real thing. Let me say that i have projected over a dozen times. Most of my experiences you could classify as a typical projection (if there is anything typical about them that is) the abilty to fly and lucid dreaming. however I have had certain dreams that do not fit the typical discription. . . . In fact the first time i projected i had, having never even heard the term before. All I know is I had a very realistic dream one night, so realistic in fact the next day i told my friend about it- I was at this party where i didnt know anyone just general drinking and smoking a great party. I recall how detailed it was not a normal dream is all i kept thinking—- OK here is the not typical part-that week passed and friday after work i was invited by a co-waorker to a party. i go thinking nothing of my dream at all. Once im there i get the most extreme case of deja-vu EVER. the party im at I realized WAS my dream! I was scared it was so real. The deja-vu would hit me nearly every ten minutes and lasted the entire party.It got to the point where all i could do was sit at this party (that apparently i had already attended) and try to remember what happened next in my dream. So that may not be projecting that time i dont know what it was other than true. The other unique projetion was ketamine induced. i was crashing ta a friends house after a long night. Im lying on the floor he is on the other side of his room in his bed. We both do the ketamine and lay down for bed. We are deep in conversation when the k kicks in( and by the way ketamine is a dissasociative not a true anestesthia) allof a sudden my body goes to sleep and my mind was able to stay awake!! I start floating up and out of my body, yet im still talking to my friend explaining to him that im floating on your ceiling!! Get this I litterally see myself telling him that im above my body and was having a conversation in real time with my real body while projecting!!! that was the only time i had a projection more similiar to the expirence of NDE. So yeah. . . . if you have ever heard of some one projecting while awake and having a conversation about sed projection a would love any feedback.— thanks—

]]> By: Stefanie Kubota http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-66378 Stefanie Kubota Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:22:34 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-66378 thinking about astral travel goes because far back as early Egypt. During this time period, it was only this ruling elite that understood the secrets to astral take a trip. Today, the idea is actually widespread. So widespread, the truth is, that one can without difficulty search for them on the internet and have thousands associated with resources at one's tips of your fingers. thinking about astral travel goes because far back as early Egypt. During this time period, it was only this ruling elite that understood the secrets to astral take a trip. Today, the idea is actually widespread. So widespread, the truth is, that one can without difficulty search for them on the internet and have thousands associated with resources at one’s tips of your fingers.

]]> By: rtes http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-43367 rtes Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:42:48 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-43367 what? what?

]]> By: Schoulayer http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-21325 Schoulayer Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:27:21 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-21325 The astral realm is the realm of dreams, we leave our bodies each night and go there, most of us simply don't remember it. When you astral travel, it is not the same place as our reality, so naturally you won't be able to observe things accurately as they happen in the physical world. I have heard of people who CAN observe things accurately in the physical world through OBEs. When you leave your body you transition from this reality to the astral realm, if you remain in between the two realms, grounded in this reality you can observe real tangible things. Also, you plainly state that no NDErs have returned with information they otherwise could not have known. If you've actually read and looked into NDEs you would know that is false. There are a great number of cases where people have returned with information they otherwise could not have known. Pam Reynolds for instance was able to accurately describe complex instruments used on her during the operation, and everybody who operated on her. Her ears were clogged, her eyes were shut, her body temperature was lowered, and all of the blood was drained from her brain for nearly an hour, yet she still described the events that occurred while she was under. The astral realm is the realm of dreams, we leave our bodies each night and go there, most of us simply don’t remember it. When you astral travel, it is not the same place as our reality, so naturally you won’t be able to observe things accurately as they happen in the physical world.

I have heard of people who CAN observe things accurately in the physical world through OBEs. When you leave your body you transition from this reality to the astral realm, if you remain in between the two realms, grounded in this reality you can observe real tangible things.

Also, you plainly state that no NDErs have returned with information they otherwise could not have known.

If you’ve actually read and looked into NDEs you would know that is false. There are a great number of cases where people have returned with information they otherwise could not have known.

Pam Reynolds for instance was able to accurately describe complex instruments used on her during the operation, and everybody who operated on her. Her ears were clogged, her eyes were shut, her body temperature was lowered, and all of the blood was drained from her brain for nearly an hour, yet she still described the events that occurred while she was under.

]]> By: AmateurScientist http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-19914 AmateurScientist Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:20:09 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-19914 Well, the basic point of this article (and most of my articles here) is that an experience interpreted by some to be supernatural has a much simpler, more mundane explanation. But I'll go further in saying that anything experienced within our 3-D (or 4-D, depending) reality is necessarily a part of that reality. If ghosts, souls, aliens, or anything else is observable or measurable by us, it must necessarily be of a piece with us. In which case, speculation about anything that exists outside the confines of our physical reality is moot at best. In which case, what happens in our reality is indeed more "real" than anything that happens in a dream, since dreams aren't reality at all. They're false perceptions brought on by chemical reactions. We may not know everything, but we do know that. Well, the basic point of this article (and most of my articles here) is that an experience interpreted by some to be supernatural has a much simpler, more mundane explanation.

But I’ll go further in saying that anything experienced within our 3-D (or 4-D, depending) reality is necessarily a part of that reality. If ghosts, souls, aliens, or anything else is observable or measurable by us, it must necessarily be of a piece with us. In which case, speculation about anything that exists outside the confines of our physical reality is moot at best.

In which case, what happens in our reality is indeed more “real” than anything that happens in a dream, since dreams aren’t reality at all. They’re false perceptions brought on by chemical reactions.

We may not know everything, but we do know that.

]]> By: Emily http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/10/09/ask-an-amateur-scientist-%e2%80%a8astral-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-19694 Emily Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:15:55 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/?p=3736#comment-19694 I've also had many of these experiences and I agree with you that what they are is a matter of interpretation. However, I feel forced to point out that just because we appear to live in a 4-D universe that other minds appear to share, does not mean that so-called "physical" reality is anymore real than what occurs during lucid-dreaming or whatever you want to call it. There are many things about this universe that we don't understand and I take issue with scientists in particular who claim that physical reality is all there is when there is so much that we don't know. On the other hand, I also take issue with people who make interpretations of their own "supernatural" experiences and treat them as fact. I think the best stance, which you appear to be taking, is to confess to having no concrete knowledge of events that take place outside of ordinary 4-D reality (because despite it's questionable reality, it's still the most consistent experience we have). That's not to say that it's not fun to speculate, but we must make an effort to reign in our imaginations when the line between our beliefs and our "knowledge" becomes fuzzy. I’ve also had many of these experiences and I agree with you that what they are is a matter of interpretation. However, I feel forced to point out that just because we appear to live in a 4-D universe that other minds appear to share, does not mean that so-called “physical” reality is anymore real than what occurs during lucid-dreaming or whatever you want to call it. There are many things about this universe that we don’t understand and I take issue with scientists in particular who claim that physical reality is all there is when there is so much that we don’t know. On the other hand, I also take issue with people who make interpretations of their own “supernatural” experiences and treat them as fact. I think the best stance, which you appear to be taking, is to confess to having no concrete knowledge of events that take place outside of ordinary 4-D reality (because despite it’s questionable reality, it’s still the most consistent experience we have). That’s not to say that it’s not fun to speculate, but we must make an effort to reign in our imaginations when the line between our beliefs and our “knowledge” becomes fuzzy.

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