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	<title>Comments on: Pilot Review: JJ Abrams&#8217; Fringe on FOX</title>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/09/09/pilot-review-jj-abrams-fringe-on-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-18118</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rape side-plot was alluded to very vaguely -- something like &quot;those three women might disagree&quot; with his dismissive attitude -- but it wasn&#039;t made terribly explicit.  It&#039;d be easy to miss with just one viewing.  In fact, I had mostly forgotten it until this discussion.

I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll hit us in the face with it later.  :-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rape side-plot was alluded to very vaguely &#8212; something like &#8220;those three women might disagree&#8221; with his dismissive attitude &#8212; but it wasn&#8217;t made terribly explicit.  It&#8217;d be easy to miss with just one viewing.  In fact, I had mostly forgotten it until this discussion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll hit us in the face with it later.  :-\</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/09/09/pilot-review-jj-abrams-fringe-on-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-18052</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...no mention of rape? Then I DEFINITELY need to see this newest version of the pilot, because that was something that really turned me off about his character from the cut I watched.

Now I just need to find an hour and a half to actually sit down and watch it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;no mention of rape? Then I DEFINITELY need to see this newest version of the pilot, because that was something that really turned me off about his character from the cut I watched.</p>
<p>Now I just need to find an hour and a half to actually sit down and watch it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LindaH</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, unless I fell asleep, TPTB agreed with you.  I don&#039;t think the source of Lance Reddick&#039;s dislike was ever revealed. It just looked as if he was a bit of a sexist who didn&#039;t like Olivia until she proved herself.  I don&#039;t remember anything about her taking down rapist friends.  All in all this has potential, so I will stick with it for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, unless I fell asleep, TPTB agreed with you.  I don&#8217;t think the source of Lance Reddick&#8217;s dislike was ever revealed. It just looked as if he was a bit of a sexist who didn&#8217;t like Olivia until she proved herself.  I don&#8217;t remember anything about her taking down rapist friends.  All in all this has potential, so I will stick with it for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the transparent skin....&lt;i&gt;the transparent skin...!&lt;/i&gt;

eeeeewwww....  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the transparent skin&#8230;.<i>the transparent skin&#8230;!</i></p>
<p>eeeeewwww&#8230;.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alpha-Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/09/09/pilot-review-jj-abrams-fringe-on-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-17921</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpha-Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always imagined the Gentleman Caller in The Glass Menagerie looking something like Mark Valley - that whole square jaw, clean cut, charming type.  Dispite his lack of bug-eyed British weirdness, he&#039;s kinda dreamy.  

Annoyed by: the &lt;i&gt;Lost&lt;/i&gt; music, big floating letters, the feeling that I&#039;m watching a mash up of &lt;i&gt;The X-Files&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Lost&lt;/i&gt;.  

Otherwise, it had me at the pilot&#039;s jaw melting off, which was probably the grossest thing I&#039;ve seen on primetime network television.  That got me thinking. . . &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is acceptable viewing for primetime network TV, but a naked boob isn&#039;t?  How screwed up are our priorities in this country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always imagined the Gentleman Caller in The Glass Menagerie looking something like Mark Valley &#8211; that whole square jaw, clean cut, charming type.  Dispite his lack of bug-eyed British weirdness, he&#8217;s kinda dreamy.  </p>
<p>Annoyed by: the <i>Lost</i> music, big floating letters, the feeling that I&#8217;m watching a mash up of <i>The X-Files</i> and <i>Lost</i>.  </p>
<p>Otherwise, it had me at the pilot&#8217;s jaw melting off, which was probably the grossest thing I&#8217;ve seen on primetime network television.  That got me thinking. . . <i>that</i> is acceptable viewing for primetime network TV, but a naked boob isn&#8217;t?  How screwed up are our priorities in this country?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/09/09/pilot-review-jj-abrams-fringe-on-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-17907</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the pilot was pretty good.  And not just because Agent Scott died.  (Sorry, but he&#039;s a cliche of a character, the romance felt trite, and something about Mark Valley just bugs me.)  The plot was interesting, and several characters -- the Bishops in particular -- were intriguing, flawed human beings.

Full disclosure: I have loved, loved, &lt;i&gt;loved&lt;/i&gt; Joshua Jackson ever since the first &lt;i&gt;Mighty Ducks&lt;/i&gt; movie.  (Yes, I was in the target age range then.)  Not in a creepy, stalkerish way, you understand.  I just think he&#039;s a talented, charming, attractive guy.  I even sat through several seasons of &lt;i&gt;Dawson&#039;s Creek&lt;/i&gt; just for his performance.

The only things that really bothered me were Anna Torv&#039;s accent, which I&#039;m sure will get better as she gets more practice, and the use of &lt;i&gt;Lost&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s music.  Yes, the string-and-brass buzz is creepy, but this show needs to develop its own soundscape.  It&#039;s like that episode of &lt;i&gt;Smallville&lt;/i&gt; where they kept using the musical sting from &lt;i&gt;Torchwood&lt;/i&gt;.  Hearing a signature sound from another show takes me out of the reality of the fictional world in a rather jarring way.

Being a Boston area resident, I was bothered to a lesser degree by the places claiming to be where they clearly weren&#039;t.  I can chalk that up to the difficulties of filmmaking.  After all, I&#039;ve seen enough of Vancouver and rural British Columbia pretending to be New York or D.C. or an alien planet.  The parts that &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; filmed out here looked really good.

I&#039;ll give it &lt;i&gt;Fringe&lt;/i&gt; a few more episodes to get me hooked, because I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;ll grow on me.  Here&#039;s hoping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the pilot was pretty good.  And not just because Agent Scott died.  (Sorry, but he&#8217;s a cliche of a character, the romance felt trite, and something about Mark Valley just bugs me.)  The plot was interesting, and several characters &#8212; the Bishops in particular &#8212; were intriguing, flawed human beings.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I have loved, loved, <i>loved</i> Joshua Jackson ever since the first <i>Mighty Ducks</i> movie.  (Yes, I was in the target age range then.)  Not in a creepy, stalkerish way, you understand.  I just think he&#8217;s a talented, charming, attractive guy.  I even sat through several seasons of <i>Dawson&#8217;s Creek</i> just for his performance.</p>
<p>The only things that really bothered me were Anna Torv&#8217;s accent, which I&#8217;m sure will get better as she gets more practice, and the use of <i>Lost</i>&#8217;s music.  Yes, the string-and-brass buzz is creepy, but this show needs to develop its own soundscape.  It&#8217;s like that episode of <i>Smallville</i> where they kept using the musical sting from <i>Torchwood</i>.  Hearing a signature sound from another show takes me out of the reality of the fictional world in a rather jarring way.</p>
<p>Being a Boston area resident, I was bothered to a lesser degree by the places claiming to be where they clearly weren&#8217;t.  I can chalk that up to the difficulties of filmmaking.  After all, I&#8217;ve seen enough of Vancouver and rural British Columbia pretending to be New York or D.C. or an alien planet.  The parts that <i>were</i> filmed out here looked really good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give it <i>Fringe</i> a few more episodes to get me hooked, because I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;ll grow on me.  Here&#8217;s hoping.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/09/09/pilot-review-jj-abrams-fringe-on-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-17901</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear that everyone liked it so much.  Despite my issues with the pilot, the central premise of the show is so interesting that I have high hopes for it and want it to get the time it needs to iron out any problems.

Also, I still have to watch the pilot again to see what they changed from the version I saw in June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear that everyone liked it so much.  Despite my issues with the pilot, the central premise of the show is so interesting that I have high hopes for it and want it to get the time it needs to iron out any problems.</p>
<p>Also, I still have to watch the pilot again to see what they changed from the version I saw in June.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, there are so many seeming ties to Lost it&#039;s ridiculous.  I&#039;m thinking of writing a Lost/Fringe column analyzing the connections:

Like the fact that the &quot;world is a lab&quot;
And that there&#039;s apparently a dude reciting &quot;numbers&quot;
And all this stuff is going down in the Pacific...

I&#039;m expecting Hurley to show up in episode 5.  :)  Oh, JJ Abrams!  Starting things with a plane crash as usual...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, there are so many seeming ties to Lost it&#8217;s ridiculous.  I&#8217;m thinking of writing a Lost/Fringe column analyzing the connections:</p>
<p>Like the fact that the &#8220;world is a lab&#8221;<br />
And that there&#8217;s apparently a dude reciting &#8220;numbers&#8221;<br />
And all this stuff is going down in the Pacific&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m expecting Hurley to show up in episode 5.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Oh, JJ Abrams!  Starting things with a plane crash as usual&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, there are so many seeming ties to Lost it&#039;s ridiculous.  I&#039;m thinking of writing a Lost/Fringe column analyzing the connections:

Like the fact that the &quot;world is a lab&quot;
And that there&#039;s apparently a dude reciting &quot;numbers&quot;
And all this stuff is going down in the Pacific...

I&#039;m expecting Hurley to show up in episode 5.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, there are so many seeming ties to Lost it&#8217;s ridiculous.  I&#8217;m thinking of writing a Lost/Fringe column analyzing the connections:</p>
<p>Like the fact that the &#8220;world is a lab&#8221;<br />
And that there&#8217;s apparently a dude reciting &#8220;numbers&#8221;<br />
And all this stuff is going down in the Pacific&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m expecting Hurley to show up in episode 5.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rhea Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhea Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fringe really drew me in, which I totally didn&#039;t think was going to happen.  I also thought I was going to be seriously annoyed with Joshua Jackson&#039;s Dawson&#039;s Creeky-ness, but thank God, I acutally liked him.  I mean really liked him, not just a &quot;okay, so you&#039;re there and I have to deal with it&quot; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fringe really drew me in, which I totally didn&#8217;t think was going to happen.  I also thought I was going to be seriously annoyed with Joshua Jackson&#8217;s Dawson&#8217;s Creeky-ness, but thank God, I acutally liked him.  I mean really liked him, not just a &#8220;okay, so you&#8217;re there and I have to deal with it&#8221; thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fringe has won me.  It was just weird enough, just funny enough, and just badass enough to make me keep watching.  And not just because I think Joshua Jackson is extremely, ridiculously, insanely hot.  That&#039;s just a fringe benefit.  Get it?  A &lt;i&gt;fringe&lt;/i&gt; benefit....

Anyway.

I love Olivia.  She&#039;s one of the few characters that is both badass and very, very feminine.  I love the sexual tension she has with Peter.  And I LOVE Walter Bishop.  

The one thing I can do without.  The ENORMOUS LETTERS on the screen telling us where we are.  The BAGHDAD, IRAQ sign that the plane flew over?!  Good lord.  Annoying.  I hope they drop that device soon.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fringe has won me.  It was just weird enough, just funny enough, and just badass enough to make me keep watching.  And not just because I think Joshua Jackson is extremely, ridiculously, insanely hot.  That&#8217;s just a fringe benefit.  Get it?  A <i>fringe</i> benefit&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway.</p>
<p>I love Olivia.  She&#8217;s one of the few characters that is both badass and very, very feminine.  I love the sexual tension she has with Peter.  And I LOVE Walter Bishop.  </p>
<p>The one thing I can do without.  The ENORMOUS LETTERS on the screen telling us where we are.  The BAGHDAD, IRAQ sign that the plane flew over?!  Good lord.  Annoying.  I hope they drop that device soon.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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