Comments on: Ask an Amateur Scientist: The Roswell Rock

By: rounderus

rounderus — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:16:38 +0000

i love reactions. actually….i make a living at it. i don’t care a bit about rocks and conspiracy. i like that you read the threads on aj. ask and you will recieve.

By: AmateurScientist

AmateurScientist — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:46:58 +0000

Maybe I could enroll at the same high school where they taught you “whos’” was a word.

I wonder what it is about this Roswell Rock story that attracts all the drooling lunatics. Check out the comments on the post at my own site:
http://www.amateurscientist.org/2008/07/roswell-rock.html

Anyway, “rounderus”, I’m sure there are plenty of homeopathic remedies for your anxiety problems. Maybe you can cook some up at your camp site in South America after the NWO collapses the economy.

(Don’t worry, everyone else. “rounderus” knows what I’m talking about.)

By: rounderus

rounderus — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:25:08 +0000

oh i forgot to mention that i was just interested in the rock. not to read about a couple children using words they look up in a thesaurus because they're trying to find a bigger word for googoogaga. by the way…was it you brian or hubajuba whos' dad paid to have it the second hit on google. fuck you kids piss me off. get a fucking life and contribute to society not tear it down. oh better yet move to fucking washington, become a politician, and fuck up the world even more. you seem like a person who ruins dreams to me.

By: rounderus

rounderus — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:13:35 +0000

brian…you stupid fuck…lost me at homeopathy. you don’t even deserve the rating as amateur. you have as much writing talent as my pet fish. yes my fucking fish. get through the murk of your twisted outlook on the world and try another 4 yrs of braindead highschool and then, just maybe then, you might be able to serve in the military and get a gi bill to get yer ass in highschool again mutherfuckin twit

By: PC

PC — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:31:33 +0000

I would like to see the character who dropped the rock initially. The guy with the rock now doesn’t have the “stroke” to run a hoax of this nature.

By: Hoobajoobah

Hoobajoobah — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:35:50 +0000

Mr. Zukowski,

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your time. I have to disagree with your tenative conclusion, though. Not only have I not seen any conclusive evidence of UFOs in Roswell or elsewhere, I haven’t even seen any conclusive evidence of any life – sentient or otherwise – existing anywhere in the universe aside from Earth. Assuming life exists elsewhere is a big enough assumption, but assuming it’s intelligent (Another bit assumption), can travel through interstellar space (Another huge assumption), found Earth (there’s nothing to make us stand out, so another huge assumption), and landed in Arizona specifically to carve a rock and then discard it in the desert seems to me to be an enormous bias from which to start a scientific investigation.

By: AmateurScientist

AmateurScientist — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:15:35 +0000

Mr. Zukowski, if you’ve done any investigation into Roswell, you should know that there’s no evidence of extraterrestrial activity in regards to the so-called Roswell Incident at all. So to even entertain the idea that this rock may be of E.T. origin, even if that wasn’t your “first impression”, is already outside the bounds of scientific investigation.

There’s nothing at all unusual about this rock. It does indeed appear to be nothing but a bit of tourist flotsam, and according to the original reporter on this story, there have even been some people in Roswell who have brought examples of similar tacky UFO folk art to the offices of the Roswell Daily Record. Further, the fact that this pattern is an exact match with a crop circle pattern in England leads one automatically to believe that it’s a simple case of human copying.

As far as the rock’s magnetic attributes go, I simply can’t believe your claims. I’ve watched your YouTube video, and it’s completely ridiculous. When you say the rock is causing the compass to spin, you’re clearing swirling the rock in your hand. In order for a magnet to make a compass spin while stationary, it has to have a constantly reversing polarity, which is impossible in any natural object. But to make a magnetic rock do what it does in your video, all it takes is for a terrible investigator to make little circles with it.

For someone who describes himself as being skeptical, you clearly lack a certain level of critical thinking skill.

By: Chuck Zukowski

Chuck Zukowski — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:29:16 +0000

This is good question. I am a UFO Investigator, pretty good with the Roswell
Investigation. This rock “blind-sided” me. I have never seen this type of artifact
before and I’ve been to many UFO and Metaphysical conventions. I can’t say if it’s
ET origin, and that was not my first impression. A good friend of mine who is
a Native American story teller tells me her ancestors speak of “Cloud People” who had
healing stones, then another story of a healer who walked the “Mid-Northwest” with
healing stones. My sister and I approached this investigation as skeptics, and spent
alot of time trying to debunk this. If it is an item you can find in Sedona, Arizona, then
It’s a pretty good one, and so far “one of a kind” because as of this writing, no one
has come up with its twin. This story has been posted “world-wide”. I wrote an article
which will be printed in the UK, I just saw one from Germany, and other than the skeptics
saying it’s fake, they cannot debunk this “as-of-yet”.
chuck

By: Hoobajoobah

Hoobajoobah — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:05:52 +0000

Not to be rude or anything, Mr. Zukowski, but it’s my understanding that legitimate investigations generally are a case of “I have no idea what this is, I will now go about finding out.” If you’ve already decided this is an extraterrestrial object d’art, and are attempting to prove that, then isn’t that kind of violating the scientific method?

I realize I’m being overly simplistic, but this site and others regularly make fun of creationists who attempt to use science to back up what they already believe: if you’ve got a preconceived notion about this, then wouldn’t you be doing the same thing as them, only to a different degree?

Again, not trying to be insulting, just asking for an explanation so I can understand your motivations in this.

By: Alpha-Girl

Alpha-Girl — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:42:49 +0000

The rock looks like the kind of thing you’d find in gift shops all over Sedona, AZ, possibly crafted by a local artisan and intended to amplify magnetic currents for a good ol’ new age time. Does the rock stink of patchouli?

BTW, this would be a great viral marketing campaign for the new X-Files movie.

By: Chuck Zukowski

Chuck Zukowski — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:31:07 +0000

Well I’m the investigator on this project. The names of the Anthropologists have been
released, Dr. Phil Shelly, and Dr. Bill Doleman both out of New Mexico. Ok, now pay
attention. We have completed Phase 1, which is to “debunk” the rock, explore its
magnetic properties, and understand the 3 dimensional design itself. The two
Anthropologists in question have done a “visual” I repeat “a visual” examination on this
rock “for free” and that’s all! Please do not tarnish their reputations. They both
recommended we put this rock into a lab for analysis, which is what we were hoping they
would say. That is our plan pending funding, if you want to give me $6000.00 I will start the lab
analysis. Ok yes! I know there are magnetic rocks, do you think I would spend a year
investigating this and not know that? Give us a little credit.. “geeesh” The last part of
Phase 1 is releasing this to the public. This way if 500 of these things showed up in
a store in Singapore, then it would be “Case Closed”. But as of yet we have a lot of
mouthy people saying it can be done, but they can’t put their “rocks” where their mouth
is. And yes, I’ve gone and talked with many companies who engrave and yes it can be
done, but it would be expensive especially to keep the polarity. High heat will
crystallize atoms, so this would have to be their intention from the get go. And guess
what? The rock is polarized only on the Crop Circle design side and not on the other
side. Very unusual for a lodestone. No I’m not a Geologist or Mineralogist I’m an IC
Mask Design Engineer and have been designing microchips for 22 years, so I know a little
something about research. And I can’t stop the way reporters write about this
investigation, that’s why I was on Coast to Coast last Monday night so the listeners
could get information from the “horses” mouth. And.. if you goto YouTube and search
“Roswell Rock Circle” you’ll see two videos I downloaded. The extended version is a
little better. If you want to debunk this, then go-at-it please, this is my intention,
but debunking with words is useless and lazy and we all know this. That is the difference
between ‘Couch Investigations” and “Field Investigations”
chuck

By: Hoobajoobah

Hoobajoobah — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:56:16 +0000

I’d never heard of this one before. It more-than-passingly sounds like an open con job to me, rather than the normal “It’s probably not true, but I’m kind of dumb so I can’t figure it out” people who are usually involved in these sorts of things. Do you think Mr. Ridge actually “Found” the thing, or made it up as a kind of “James Ossuary” way to grab notoriety and money?

BTW, about a decade ago I rented a house from a “Modern Sculptor.” (That is, a guy who’s sculptures didn’t look anything like the things they were supposed to be, and frequently didn’t look like anything at all). His ‘failed experiments’ were everywhere. I’d even find ‘em half-burried in the back yard while I was mowing the lawn, so finding abandoned oddities in a field isn’t that unusual, particularly around a nut hatch town like Roswell.