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Lisa Fary's earliest influences are Princess Leia, Rainbow Bright, Astronaut Barbie, and her 6th grade teacher, Ms. Palmer. She's angry that it's 2011 and she still doesn't have a hovercraft, but will accept a jetpack as consolation. That jetpack had better be pink with a rhinestone monogram. 12 Comments
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Since when has American Politics ever been even remotely rational? You’re neglecting to consider the anger of the electorate: the folks who really wanted Hillary in feel betrayed and angry, and they’re going to vote for McCain (or at least they say they will) out of anger and protest, not any kind of weighing of the options. It’s not “I think McCain is a viable alternative to Hillary,” it’s a completely irrational case of “If my party doesn’t nominate my candidate, they don’t deserve too win.”
I am considering the anger of the electorate, and I think it’s silly for the electorate to act on that anger rather than rational weighing of options.
Oh, no arument from me on that – it’s totally silly and destructive. It is, however, The American Way. If people feel betrayed by or disenfranchised by their party, a very large number of them will go out of their way to sabotage it. I’m not a Republican or anything, but I’ve noticed this tends to happen to the Democrats a lot more than it happens to Republicans.
The GOP seems to do a better job (at least publicly) of maintaining their party line and they've been very good at whipping up their base. They pick a couple of issues in each election cycle and focus on those. As a party, Dems seem to lack the same focus and I think that does hurt them. I'm hoping that the cries of "I'm voting for McCain!" are an immediate, knee-jerk reaction and nothing more. Even if it isn't, there's still plenty of time for Undead Grampers to screw up and drive them away.
@JoeyManley – the wonders of Google "smart" advertising.
Agreed on all points.
Funny thing: when I read this, the square ad under the post was a video ad for John McCain for President.
Well, the Democrats tend to champion causes that middle-America either doesn’t care about at all, or actively opposes. (Abortion, Gay Rights, Leniency on Illegal Aliens) They tend to get pretty shrill about it, too, which is why they tend to loose the midwest and the south every time. Added to which, their opinion after defeat is always pretty condescending in a “Well, I’m glad we lost because I wouldn’t want *Those* kinds of people voting for me anyway” sense. (Nancy Pellosi openly called the electorate “Stupid” and said that she “Couldn’t believe anyone actually believes all this Jesus stuff”) Obviously not much of a connection with the desires of the average voter.
Conversely, the Republicans simply say “Vote for us, and you’ll make money and be safe,” which is a pretty easy sell. Also, they can play the “It’s your religious duty to vote for us” card, which the Dems really can’t do. The best they can manage is “It’s your irreligious duty to vote for us.”
However: The Republicans are pretty much assuming they loose this time out, and are only putting up a token campaign, and they’ve really pissed off a lot of the Religious Right in the last four years. (They built up a massively religious mandate last time out, and then did absolutely nothing to follow through on any of their promises. Religious people do not like it when they feel used.)
Ah, damn. Just when the discussion was getting interesting, everyone checks out.
Let me guess… you guys (whomever wrote this article) are Obama supporters. Right? *snerk*
Don’t you think it’s remotely possible that some of these Hillary supporters are saying they’ll vote for McCain not just out of anger, but because they have considered some of the issues? I have a few friends who were Clinton supporters and they don’t like the racist stuff attached to Obama, especially his association with that church, and they have issues with his ties to terrorist organizations/states. Whether they’ll vote for McCain or just sit out the election, I’m not sure, although one hinted she probably would vote for McCain.
Oh, and interesting comments in your last post, Hoobajoobah. The elitist, condescending attitude is annoying (what about the people in PA who would “cling to religion and guns”, etc.?). Not that I’m saying McCain is much more likeable anyway…
When it comes down to it, this election pretty much sucks.
@ Jess: It’s remotely possible, but given the vast differences between Clinton and McCain on pertinent issues, it would be a foolish decision. That attitude belongs to someone who is either wealthy enough to have been one of the prosperous few under the Bush Administration or someone who is grossly misinformed.
Obama’s church isn’t an issue that affects the majority of Americans. Obama’s church has nothing to do with gas and food prices. It has nothing to do with millions of people losing their homes. It has nothing to do with Iraq. It has nothing to do with health care. Neither does Obama’s attendance at an Indonesian elementary school in the late 60s/ early 70s (which was not a madrassa).
Had Hillary Clinton gotten the nomination instead, I would have enthusiastically supported her. I would have volunteered for her general campaign and done everything I could to get her elected, even if she hadn’t been my first choice because I couldn’t, in good (and informed) conscience, support a candidate like McCain who has a radically difference stance on things that will impact my quality of life.
Yes, many people wanted Clinton to get the nomination, however you can’t always get what you want. But, if you try sometime, you may find you get what you need.