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		<title>By: Stargate on the web for Mar/2/2008 :: Nervous Sheep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stargate on the web for Mar/2/2008 :: Nervous Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/03/03/stargate-atlantis-the-kindred-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-6449</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so happy to have Carson back... even if he is a clone.  Hopefully he&#039;ll be around more, but it doesn&#039;t look like he&#039;s in the season finale.  The next episode sounds really cool though with the whole future thing, and I&#039;m just as excited to see the Ark of Truth sneak peek trailer during the show! http://stargatehub.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so happy to have Carson back&#8230; even if he is a clone.  Hopefully he&#8217;ll be around more, but it doesn&#8217;t look like he&#8217;s in the season finale.  The next episode sounds really cool though with the whole future thing, and I&#8217;m just as excited to see the Ark of Truth sneak peek trailer during the show! <a href="http://stargatehub.com/" rel="nofollow">http://stargatehub.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wolfen Moondaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfen Moondaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jen ~

That was really, really beautiful -- and I think you really hit the nail on the head!</description>
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<p>That was really, really beautiful &#8212; and I think you really hit the nail on the head!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what bothers me the most about the people complaining that since he&#039;s a clone he isn&#039;t the REAL Carson - is the fact that they&#039;re ignoring the kind of person Carson is. If Carson were still alive he would have been the FIRST person (after the shock wore off) fighting for the clone&#039;s right to survive and have a place on Atlantis, and doing everything he could to find the cure so that the clone could continue to live. I strongly believe he&#039;d also want his friends to accept his clone as they would have him. If he can&#039;t be there than the clone might as well be. 

People can argue all they want about souls and what makes a person &quot;real&quot;, but honestly it would be MUCH more disrespectful to Carson&#039;s memory to deny the clone, than it is to accept the clone as Carson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what bothers me the most about the people complaining that since he&#8217;s a clone he isn&#8217;t the REAL Carson &#8211; is the fact that they&#8217;re ignoring the kind of person Carson is. If Carson were still alive he would have been the FIRST person (after the shock wore off) fighting for the clone&#8217;s right to survive and have a place on Atlantis, and doing everything he could to find the cure so that the clone could continue to live. I strongly believe he&#8217;d also want his friends to accept his clone as they would have him. If he can&#8217;t be there than the clone might as well be. </p>
<p>People can argue all they want about souls and what makes a person &#8220;real&#8221;, but honestly it would be MUCH more disrespectful to Carson&#8217;s memory to deny the clone, than it is to accept the clone as Carson.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfen Moondaughter</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/03/03/stargate-atlantis-the-kindred-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-6414</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfen Moondaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lysambre said ...

&lt;I&gt;Who said anything about Earth ? There are more than enough planets with (or without) gates in the milky way for it not to be Earth ;), and it’s not like they haven’t done it before.
They even have ‘prison’-like planets in the milky way, wht more could we ask for ?&lt;/I&gt;

Doh! I&#039;m as thick as Nabel, that hadn&#039;t even occured to me. It would have to be a prison world though, definitely -- couldn&#039;t risk him finding his way back to Earth!

Robin said ...

&lt;I&gt;Well, check you out with your metaphysical musings.  Very nicely done, Wolfie!&lt;/I&gt;

Thanks! #^^# I just hope I didn&#039;t offend anyone!

Robin also said ...

&lt;I&gt;My only question is “Where’s Jinto?”&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I wondered that too. Maybe the actor was busy with school.

Robin also said ...

&lt;I&gt;And a lot of experience on such matters. She’s met duplicates of herself and her friends that were androids, replicators, from alternate timelines and parallel dimensions, but only her more recent encounters (’Gemini’ and ‘Ripple Effect’ spring to mind) produced “evil twins”. I think she’s finally learned her lesson about implicitly trusting new versions of people just because she knows “the original”.&lt;/I&gt;

And that season 10 ep where she was in a parallel universe and learned she&#039;d been married to McKay and that Landry had become something of an evil president ....

Robin also said ...

&lt;I&gt;And how awesome is it that the diagram on the whiteboard looked sloppy and hastily drawn? Too often we see props like that looking a little too neat and the actor’s additions within the scene don’t match (I’m looking at you, Shanks.)&lt;/I&gt;

*Snicker* Oh, aye! iot looked like a doctor with bad handwriting drew it rather than an artst! ^^

Robin also said ...

&lt;I&gt;According to Joe Mallozzi’s blog, not long at all. &lt;/I&gt;

Which has me puzzled, really -- are they shooting out of order? Or maybe, since Last Man seems like it will be AU, Paul is there because the future events covered in the second part will include Carson being woken up, and when the timeline is reset he&#039;llbe asleep again? It&#039;s probably a longshot,. but I hope that that&#039;s the case, and that Carson won&#039;t woke up for real until near the end of season 5 for those other 4 eps, so that maybe they can make him a series regular again for season 6 (or at least as recurring as he was in season 1) ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lysambre said &#8230;</p>
<p><i>Who said anything about Earth ? There are more than enough planets with (or without) gates in the milky way for it not to be Earth <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> , and it’s not like they haven’t done it before.<br />
They even have ‘prison’-like planets in the milky way, wht more could we ask for ?</i></p>
<p>Doh! I&#8217;m as thick as Nabel, that hadn&#8217;t even occured to me. It would have to be a prison world though, definitely &#8212; couldn&#8217;t risk him finding his way back to Earth!</p>
<p>Robin said &#8230;</p>
<p><i>Well, check you out with your metaphysical musings.  Very nicely done, Wolfie!</i></p>
<p>Thanks! #^^# I just hope I didn&#8217;t offend anyone!</p>
<p>Robin also said &#8230;</p>
<p><i>My only question is “Where’s Jinto?”</i></p>
<p>Yeah, I wondered that too. Maybe the actor was busy with school.</p>
<p>Robin also said &#8230;</p>
<p><i>And a lot of experience on such matters. She’s met duplicates of herself and her friends that were androids, replicators, from alternate timelines and parallel dimensions, but only her more recent encounters (’Gemini’ and ‘Ripple Effect’ spring to mind) produced “evil twins”. I think she’s finally learned her lesson about implicitly trusting new versions of people just because she knows “the original”.</i></p>
<p>And that season 10 ep where she was in a parallel universe and learned she&#8217;d been married to McKay and that Landry had become something of an evil president &#8230;.</p>
<p>Robin also said &#8230;</p>
<p><i>And how awesome is it that the diagram on the whiteboard looked sloppy and hastily drawn? Too often we see props like that looking a little too neat and the actor’s additions within the scene don’t match (I’m looking at you, Shanks.)</i></p>
<p>*Snicker* Oh, aye! iot looked like a doctor with bad handwriting drew it rather than an artst! ^^</p>
<p>Robin also said &#8230;</p>
<p><i>According to Joe Mallozzi’s blog, not long at all. </i></p>
<p>Which has me puzzled, really &#8212; are they shooting out of order? Or maybe, since Last Man seems like it will be AU, Paul is there because the future events covered in the second part will include Carson being woken up, and when the timeline is reset he&#8217;llbe asleep again? It&#8217;s probably a longshot,. but I hope that that&#8217;s the case, and that Carson won&#8217;t woke up for real until near the end of season 5 for those other 4 eps, so that maybe they can make him a series regular again for season 6 (or at least as recurring as he was in season 1) &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, check you out with your metaphysical musings.  :)   Very nicely done, Wolfie!

&lt;i&gt;&quot;We see a very short-haired Halling greet Teyla. (I’m overjoyed to see him, but … his hair! Oh, it’s almost something to be mourned in and of itself!)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I kept expecting Halling to show up, since they had Chris around anyway to play Todd and Athosian makeup is a lot easier.  The hair wasn&#039;t so much of a surprise for be; he had his head completely shaved in &lt;i&gt;Sanctuary&lt;/i&gt;.  It was a bit jarring to see on Halling but, given the franchise&#039;s track record with wigs, it&#039;s probably better that they didn&#039;t try to match his look from the first season.  My only question is &quot;Where&#039;s Jinto?&quot;

&lt;I&gt;&quot;Sam ... insists that Carson was manufactured and can’t be trusted any more than the hybrids (and really, I can’t blame her for feeling that way, she has a point.)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And a lot of experience on such matters.  She&#039;s met duplicates of herself and her friends that were androids, replicators, from alternate timelines and parallel dimensions, but only her more recent encounters (&#039;Gemini&#039; and &#039;Ripple Effect&#039; spring to mind) produced &quot;evil twins&quot;.  I think she&#039;s finally learned her lesson about implicitly trusting new versions of people just because she knows &quot;the original&quot;.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;(Okay, it’s a funny line, but could they seriously take an enemy to Earth? They’d have to keep him under lock and key, wouldn’t they? Unless the plan to put him in a virtual environment similar to what they did with Eva?)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I was envisioning something more like what they did with Nerus on &lt;i&gt;SG-1&lt;/i&gt; -- toss him in a cell at Area 51 and interrogate him.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;we see Carson telling her, John, Ronon, and Rodney about the layout of the particular facility Teyla is at&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And how awesome is it that the diagram on the whiteboard looked sloppy and hastily drawn?  Too often we see props like that looking a little too neat and the actor&#039;s additions within the scene don&#039;t match (I&#039;m looking at you, Shanks.)

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Ronon grabs Beckett by the collar of his tac vest and hauls him to his feet&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

One of the friends I was watching with giggled at that because she&#039;d just noticed the handle on the vests while watching this episode.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;And I wonder how long we’ll all have to wait for Carson to come out again...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

According to Joe Mallozzi&#039;s blog, not long at all.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, check you out with your metaphysical musings.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    Very nicely done, Wolfie!</p>
<p><i>&#8220;We see a very short-haired Halling greet Teyla. (I’m overjoyed to see him, but … his hair! Oh, it’s almost something to be mourned in and of itself!)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I kept expecting Halling to show up, since they had Chris around anyway to play Todd and Athosian makeup is a lot easier.  The hair wasn&#8217;t so much of a surprise for be; he had his head completely shaved in <i>Sanctuary</i>.  It was a bit jarring to see on Halling but, given the franchise&#8217;s track record with wigs, it&#8217;s probably better that they didn&#8217;t try to match his look from the first season.  My only question is &#8220;Where&#8217;s Jinto?&#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Sam &#8230; insists that Carson was manufactured and can’t be trusted any more than the hybrids (and really, I can’t blame her for feeling that way, she has a point.)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And a lot of experience on such matters.  She&#8217;s met duplicates of herself and her friends that were androids, replicators, from alternate timelines and parallel dimensions, but only her more recent encounters (&#8216;Gemini&#8217; and &#8216;Ripple Effect&#8217; spring to mind) produced &#8220;evil twins&#8221;.  I think she&#8217;s finally learned her lesson about implicitly trusting new versions of people just because she knows &#8220;the original&#8221;.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;(Okay, it’s a funny line, but could they seriously take an enemy to Earth? They’d have to keep him under lock and key, wouldn’t they? Unless the plan to put him in a virtual environment similar to what they did with Eva?)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I was envisioning something more like what they did with Nerus on <i>SG-1</i> &#8212; toss him in a cell at Area 51 and interrogate him.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;we see Carson telling her, John, Ronon, and Rodney about the layout of the particular facility Teyla is at&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And how awesome is it that the diagram on the whiteboard looked sloppy and hastily drawn?  Too often we see props like that looking a little too neat and the actor&#8217;s additions within the scene don&#8217;t match (I&#8217;m looking at you, Shanks.)</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Ronon grabs Beckett by the collar of his tac vest and hauls him to his feet&#8221;</i></p>
<p>One of the friends I was watching with giggled at that because she&#8217;d just noticed the handle on the vests while watching this episode.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;And I wonder how long we’ll all have to wait for Carson to come out again&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>According to Joe Mallozzi&#8217;s blog, not long at all.  <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lysambre</title>
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		<dc:creator>lysambre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“Who said anything about this galaxy?” John asks. (Okay, it’s a funny line, but could they seriously take an enemy to Earth? They’d have to keep him under lock and key, wouldn’t they? Unless the plan to put him in a virtual environment similar to what they did with Eva?)&quot;

Who said anything about Earth ? There are more than enough planets with (or without) gates in the milky way for it not to be Earth ;), and it&#039;s not like they haven&#039;t done it before.
They even have &#039;prison&#039;-like planets in the milky way, wht more could we ask for ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Who said anything about this galaxy?” John asks. (Okay, it’s a funny line, but could they seriously take an enemy to Earth? They’d have to keep him under lock and key, wouldn’t they? Unless the plan to put him in a virtual environment similar to what they did with Eva?)&#8221;</p>
<p>Who said anything about Earth ? There are more than enough planets with (or without) gates in the milky way for it not to be Earth <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> , and it&#8217;s not like they haven&#8217;t done it before.<br />
They even have &#8216;prison&#8217;-like planets in the milky way, wht more could we ask for ? <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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