Comments on: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles – Dungeons and Dragons http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/02/19/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-dungeons-and-dragons/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:40:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Melissa http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/02/19/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-dungeons-and-dragons/comment-page-1/#comment-22580 Melissa Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:59:51 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/02/19/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-dungeons-and-dragons/#comment-22580 I guess the problem I have with the idea that the time travel stuff is just creating alternate futures is that it makes the story too ridiculously cumbersome and complex. If you don't have some set guidelines and continuity, then you don't have anything to believe in as real and true anymore. It makes it too easy to do whatever you want and pay no attention to consequences because you have made it possible for ANYTHING to happen. And that seems lazy and aggravating to me. I guess the problem I have with the idea that the time travel stuff is just creating alternate futures is that it makes the story too ridiculously cumbersome and complex. If you don’t have some set guidelines and continuity, then you don’t have anything to believe in as real and true anymore. It makes it too easy to do whatever you want and pay no attention to consequences because you have made it possible for ANYTHING to happen. And that seems lazy and aggravating to me.

]]> By: Jakob http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/02/19/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-dungeons-and-dragons/comment-page-1/#comment-6158 Jakob Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:46:34 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/02/19/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-dungeons-and-dragons/#comment-6158 I don't think it's a problem that Andy told Derek stuff, and then was killed by Derek in the past. Sure it's a paradox - But given the premiss of the series, those kinds of paradoxes are necessary. If time travel in the series didn't allow for such things, messing about in the past would be futile. The terminators could not kill John Connor - we know he's alive in the future. Skynet could not be stopped, and Judgement Day would happen; again, we have seen the results in the future. I have two theories that explain this - one is that the changes spawn other timelines, and that the future is now different because Andy has been killed in the present. But people who are already back haven't had their own backgrounds changed, and still remember what happened in their personal pasts. This would explain Cameron's reaction to the Terminator 'brain-unit-thing' - keeping it when she destroyed the rest of the terminator. It is from a different future from her, and thus designed differently and wrongly (to her), because Andy wasn't contributing to Skynet. It was presumably sent back to stop Derek from killing Andy. Conversely, another theory is that Derek was brainwashed in that prison-experience - something happened to him, after all, and there's no other reason for Skynet not just killing those prisoners. Skynet wanted him to kill Andy, and that whole confession thing was an implanted memory. I wish I could be confident that it was something like this, rather than just the show having poor continuity. I can hope, right? I don’t think it’s a problem that Andy told Derek stuff, and then was killed by Derek in the past. Sure it’s a paradox – But given the premiss of the series, those kinds of paradoxes are necessary.

If time travel in the series didn’t allow for such things, messing about in the past would be futile. The terminators could not kill John Connor – we know he’s alive in the future. Skynet could not be stopped, and Judgement Day would happen; again, we have seen the results in the future.

I have two theories that explain this – one is that the changes spawn other timelines, and that the future is now different because Andy has been killed in the present. But people who are already back haven’t had their own backgrounds changed, and still remember what happened in their personal pasts. This would explain Cameron’s reaction to the Terminator ‘brain-unit-thing’ – keeping it when she destroyed the rest of the terminator. It is from a different future from her, and thus designed differently and wrongly (to her), because Andy wasn’t contributing to Skynet. It was presumably sent back to stop Derek from killing Andy.

Conversely, another theory is that Derek was brainwashed in that prison-experience – something happened to him, after all, and there’s no other reason for Skynet not just killing those prisoners. Skynet wanted him to kill Andy, and that whole confession thing was an implanted memory.

I wish I could be confident that it was something like this, rather than just the show having poor continuity. I can hope, right?

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