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Good for you, Mike N. You’ve used your personal freedom to purchase the magazine. No one is trying to take that away from you. Not here, anyway.
You’ve also used your own aesthetic criteria to determine that you like the image. Again, good for you. You’ve made an independent decision. No one is trying to take that away from you, either.
just because you couldnt pull it off doesnt mean you can bash her for it
This is where your thought process is problematic, Mike N. Basically, you’re saying, “You’re just jealous because the model is hot and you’re not.” You go from independent thought and action to a cliched taunt regularly thrown at any fangirl who airs the slightest bit of criticism of the way a female is portrayed. That argument is a joke. Could you at least try to be a little original?
And no, I don’t pay royalties on quotes because that’s considered fair use: “Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports.”
That’s a far cry from using a copyrighted image on the cover of a national magazine.
??What if they cast this model Tiffany Fallon for the much-rumored Wonder Woman movie? Stranger things have happened!
Why the fukc does people have to be so uptight about sex? (and so on and so on)
Daniel, an image is not sex. One can’t be substituted for the other. Nor does a breast feel like a bag of sand.
We’re here on this planet just to eat and have sex anyway.
Then what are you doing spending valuable time on the internet? Isn’t there a Hot Pocket™ and a Willing Babe™ cooling off on the counter waiting for you to fulfill your purpose on Earth™? (please don’t confuse the true purpose of either the Hot Pocket™ or the Willing Babe™)
Apologies for the drive-by comment.
“Yeah, because sensuality can stop a bullet cold, make the Axis fall, change their minds and change the world.”
I don’t know about the bullet thing, but sexuality can be a pretty important force in global politics. I’m thinking of 1984 and Brave New World, where sex is criminalized and the main character’s discovery of sexuality always goes hand-in-hand with his awakening to political consciousness.
So, you have pointed the obvious. Of course an image is not sex, because it is too busy being an IMAGE. Nonetheless, this image depicts a woman using body language to transmit sexual willingness (unless you’re thinking shes standing that way just because she felt like it), therefore, bringing us to my first argument, because symbolism, i don’t know why, messes with people sometimes more than the act itself.
You can say that this sort of thing is a vulgarization of the act of sex, but first you’d have to tell me what vulgarization means. Is there an invisible line that when crossed makes sex something bad? I don’t think so. I think if the two parties consent, everything goes.
You know, we, the terrible men, don’t feel excited with this kind of imagery because we’re jerks. It excites us because it activates our reproduction instincts, it reminds us of something that’s great, better than any of the other shit we do and for that, we fucking worship women. I do, at least. I respect them as thinking human beings, of course, because that’s what they are, and, on this level, genre is irrelevant, but on a different level, i respect them because they represent life, they are the other end of the life circle, and they’re way more elegant and beautiful than men.
And “purpose” is an inadequate word i feel, because it implies we have to DO anything. That’s not the case. For me, living life is making the most of it, enjoying it in the most ways possible. Biologically, the only thing the matters is eating and fucking, sure, but there are other things you can do in between. My time isn’t valuable, no such thing, i do stuff because i ain’t dead and i can’t eat and drink all the time, and such stirred up discussions on the net are great to kill time. But a million years from now, a million miles from here, do you think that stupid cover will have meant something? But that’s a whole different discussion.
Also, i don’t eat hot pockets. Microwave food sucks. Don’t know how you Americans can live on it.
This article isn’t about sex – it’s about the double standard practiced by DC Comics, which vehemently protects the images of Batman and Robin from the sort of imagery now used by Playboy with Wonder Woman. Nowhere in this article did we write “SEX BAD! SEX VULGAR! MEN ARE TERRIBLE!” You brought all of that with you.
You can say this sort of thing is a vulgarization of the act of sex. . . (and so on and so on)
I didn’t. No one is accusing your sexual feelings and urges of being bad, either. Again, you brought that with you. Try reading the words that are there – they don’t support what you’re accusing them of.
But a million miles from now, a million miles from here, do you think that stupid cover will have meant something?
Considering the fact that all bodies in the universe are steadily moving away from each other which will eventually snap the bounds of gravity, ending the universe in the Big Rip, probably not. But, our Sun would have gone nova by then, so the Big Rip won’t matter to us either.
When you put it that way, why do anything about anything? Why care about anything? A million years from now, a million miles from here, absolutely nothing that is happening right now is going to matter. But that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss in our current time and place.
Well, i think i’m not making myself clear enough. Or maybe you’re not getting my point.
I don’t care about DC’s policies, i’m discussing why SHOULD DC care if wonder woman appears naked on a magazine or not. Why should anyone care, i mean, what’s so fucking bad about it? That’s where my point is: Insinuation of sexuality is inoffensive, DC shouldn’t protect any of its characters from this. I’m discussing this common practice of frowning upon sex symbolism in the first place, which is the basis for this whole discussion over the playboy cover.
Unless there’s other reason why this photo is so offensive, then i’m really completely off.
If a symbol of feminism or whatever appears like that on a magazine it doesn’t mean the whole thing has gone to dust. It doesn’t mean anything. Just for starters, i’m sure most people don’t even know that WW is such a strong image for women’s liberation. In the second place, what should hold feminism together are its ideas, not some doodles. Besides, When the average reader picks up a wonder woman magazine, he usually just sees a girl kicking some super-villains butt. You don’t see WW going after employers who abuse their secretaries fairly often. Of course, maybe that’s some DC policy too, but then you should be discussing that instead of the playboy cover. Usually, however, she is depicted as a bright, strong and capable woman, but a lot other female characters are too.
I mean, the chick shows off her legs and rack all the time, using minimal clothes. Playboy didn’t do any more to discredit her image.
Daniel -
DC should care if Wonder Woman (or any of their trademarked properties) appear naked, or otherwise, because if they’re not going to protect their trademarks, then who is? Furthermore, DC should not only protect their trademarks, but protect them ALL with EQUAL vigor.
I didn’t realize this was a copyrights issue!
You mean to tell me it doesn’t matter if the character is a woman or not, the REAL problem is that playboy is using the image and not paying?
Gee, that can change the world right there.
Daniel – You asked “…why SHOULD DC care if wonder woman appears naked on a magazine or not.”
I answered.