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		<title>By: Adventures in Pegasus &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yay Atlantis!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adventures in Pegasus &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yay Atlantis!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the mean time Wofen Moondaughter has her reviews up for the last two episodes: Travilers and Tabula Rasa. Check them out!    Category: SGA (general) &#160;&#124;&#160;&#160;Comment (RSS) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the mean time Wofen Moondaughter has her reviews up for the last two episodes: Travilers and Tabula Rasa. Check them out!    Category: SGA (general) &nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;Comment (RSS) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/11/06/stargate-atlantis-travelers/comment-page-1/#comment-4528</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*SIGH* I knew I was making a mistake the minute I posted that. I mean I kept telling myself that you were busy and just got back and probably had a thousand things to do and all of that and that replying to THIS was probably somewhere down near the bottom of the list of things that you needed to take care of... but did I listen to the more rational part of my brain? NO of course not... *rolls eyes* I also forgot to consider that maybe you DIDN&#039;T get replies from here and hadn&#039;t even had a chance to look!

Anyway let&#039;s just move on and next time I&#039;ll be smarter about waiting. I suspect that part of the problem is that as much as I&#039;m pulling away from fandom in general I would still like to talk to SOMEONE about Atlantis. And like I said your reviews are always fair to everyone even when you aren&#039;t fond of something that happened.

I&#039;ll definitely be putting the links to your reviews back up! Taking them down was a pretty stupid thing to do really. I&#039;m not sure what exactly my thought processes where there...

And now I&#039;m off to check out the comments that I see you&#039;ve posted on my blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*SIGH* I knew I was making a mistake the minute I posted that. I mean I kept telling myself that you were busy and just got back and probably had a thousand things to do and all of that and that replying to THIS was probably somewhere down near the bottom of the list of things that you needed to take care of&#8230; but did I listen to the more rational part of my brain? NO of course not&#8230; *rolls eyes* I also forgot to consider that maybe you DIDN&#8217;T get replies from here and hadn&#8217;t even had a chance to look!</p>
<p>Anyway let&#8217;s just move on and next time I&#8217;ll be smarter about waiting. I suspect that part of the problem is that as much as I&#8217;m pulling away from fandom in general I would still like to talk to SOMEONE about Atlantis. And like I said your reviews are always fair to everyone even when you aren&#8217;t fond of something that happened.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll definitely be putting the links to your reviews back up! Taking them down was a pretty stupid thing to do really. I&#8217;m not sure what exactly my thought processes where there&#8230;</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m off to check out the comments that I see you&#8217;ve posted on my blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfen Moondaughter</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/11/06/stargate-atlantis-travelers/comment-page-1/#comment-4526</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfen Moondaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jen ~ Sorry, sorry, I &lt;I&gt;have&lt;/I&gt; been very busy, and *quite* exhausted (even right now, I wish I could go back to bed, but I got woken up and couldn&#039;t fall back to sleep, so I figured I better get some more work doen instead of just lying in bed). I get the ADB board replies in my inbox, so that&#039;s why I&#039;ve been posting there a bit -- they remind/prompt me to do so when I check my email, and so I&#039;ve been taking tiny breaks from the workload to respond to things there (especially since I&#039;d been rather neglectful to that forum for a while). I&#039;ve also been responding to posts in an RPG I belong to that has been busier than usual of late (and actually ignored the past two days because I&#039;ve been too tired to think straight, and have a mild but annoying headache that won&#039;t go away. Why oh why don&#039;t pain meds ever work on me??). Plus I&#039;ve spent the last two days putting in my nominations for the McShep Awards (the deadline was last night), when I wasn&#039;t outside handling a (disastorusly unprofitable) garage sale. All while catching up with email from the vacation and working on Tart stuff. I don&#039;t get the replies from here, I have to come check it, and I can only be in so many places at once. Please don&#039;t feel like I don&#039;t value your opinion or appreciate your readership if it takes me a few days to respond!

Okay, on  to your comments...

&lt;I&gt;Or maybe the writers just thought it would be funny without really considering how it would sound when it actually came out of John’s mouth.&lt;/i&gt;

This is what I suspect, truth be told, but anything&#039;s possible, so I&#039;ll give Mullie the benefit of the doubt. :)

I think you have every right and reason to like Larrin -- I&#039;m surprised at myself that i don&#039;t, al things considered. And yet here I loved Vala from the very first time I saw her. (Well, maybe I was seeing Claudia, though I wasn&#039;t yet familiar with the actress. She&#039;s one of the kindest, sweeted individuals I have ever met, and I guess her soul shined through the character, for me.) And, well, I *live* for subtext and shipping, so maybe you&#039;re not obblivious, maybe I&#039;m just looking to hard, LOL!

And I actually went to read your blog right away when I got back -- love the new look, and enjoyed what you had to say, I just had to get to work on the columns I&#039;d missed and was going to respond after they were posted. And then it was &quot;after the damn headache goes away and I can make a coherent sentence again,&quot; but that never seemed to happen. Sorry I got waylaid! I appreciated the linkage, that was sweet of you -- but don&#039;t feel you have to repost them just because I finally replied! I&#039;m not fishing for that, I just wanted to let you know I wasn&#039;t trying to be ungrateful! &lt;i&gt;Katejikanai&lt;/i&gt;! (I&#039;m grateful!) It was rude of me not to respond promptly! &lt;I&gt;Gomen nasai&lt;/i&gt;!! (I&#039;m so sorry!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jen ~ Sorry, sorry, I <i>have</i> been very busy, and *quite* exhausted (even right now, I wish I could go back to bed, but I got woken up and couldn&#8217;t fall back to sleep, so I figured I better get some more work doen instead of just lying in bed). I get the ADB board replies in my inbox, so that&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve been posting there a bit &#8212; they remind/prompt me to do so when I check my email, and so I&#8217;ve been taking tiny breaks from the workload to respond to things there (especially since I&#8217;d been rather neglectful to that forum for a while). I&#8217;ve also been responding to posts in an RPG I belong to that has been busier than usual of late (and actually ignored the past two days because I&#8217;ve been too tired to think straight, and have a mild but annoying headache that won&#8217;t go away. Why oh why don&#8217;t pain meds ever work on me??). Plus I&#8217;ve spent the last two days putting in my nominations for the McShep Awards (the deadline was last night), when I wasn&#8217;t outside handling a (disastorusly unprofitable) garage sale. All while catching up with email from the vacation and working on Tart stuff. I don&#8217;t get the replies from here, I have to come check it, and I can only be in so many places at once. Please don&#8217;t feel like I don&#8217;t value your opinion or appreciate your readership if it takes me a few days to respond!</p>
<p>Okay, on  to your comments&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Or maybe the writers just thought it would be funny without really considering how it would sound when it actually came out of John’s mouth.</i></p>
<p>This is what I suspect, truth be told, but anything&#8217;s possible, so I&#8217;ll give Mullie the benefit of the doubt. <img src='http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think you have every right and reason to like Larrin &#8212; I&#8217;m surprised at myself that i don&#8217;t, al things considered. And yet here I loved Vala from the very first time I saw her. (Well, maybe I was seeing Claudia, though I wasn&#8217;t yet familiar with the actress. She&#8217;s one of the kindest, sweeted individuals I have ever met, and I guess her soul shined through the character, for me.) And, well, I *live* for subtext and shipping, so maybe you&#8217;re not obblivious, maybe I&#8217;m just looking to hard, LOL!</p>
<p>And I actually went to read your blog right away when I got back &#8212; love the new look, and enjoyed what you had to say, I just had to get to work on the columns I&#8217;d missed and was going to respond after they were posted. And then it was &#8220;after the damn headache goes away and I can make a coherent sentence again,&#8221; but that never seemed to happen. Sorry I got waylaid! I appreciated the linkage, that was sweet of you &#8212; but don&#8217;t feel you have to repost them just because I finally replied! I&#8217;m not fishing for that, I just wanted to let you know I wasn&#8217;t trying to be ungrateful! <i>Katejikanai</i>! (I&#8217;m grateful!) It was rude of me not to respond promptly! <i>Gomen nasai</i>!! (I&#8217;m so sorry!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/11/06/stargate-atlantis-travelers/comment-page-1/#comment-4524</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay so either you’ve been busy, or something I said either here or on my blog bothered you… sorry? Guess I sounded a little obsessive, maybe? 

Anyway, I won’t comment again if that’s what you’d prefer and I’ll take down the links to your reviews…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so either you’ve been busy, or something I said either here or on my blog bothered you… sorry? Guess I sounded a little obsessive, maybe? </p>
<p>Anyway, I won’t comment again if that’s what you’d prefer and I’ll take down the links to your reviews…</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/11/06/stargate-atlantis-travelers/comment-page-1/#comment-4496</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! You’re back! I didn’t realize how much I depend on your reviews until I had to wait for this one. I think your reviews keep me “grounded” when it comes to how I view the episodes. I’m over in my blog being all excited over how awesome stuff is (even an episode like Travelers which wasn’t actually that awesome - though I still like it well enough), and you’re here writing up really awesome comprehensive reviews that are fair to everyone and hitting the highlights while also pointing out trouble spots.  

Take for example your comments about the opening teaser: &lt;i&gt;“Rodney makes the observation that John has never volunteered for a supply run for any of the other science stations they’ve set up, adding that this particular planet happens to be a tropical paradise, home to a primitive tribe with few social inhibitions. Munching away on an apple (Garden of Eden, anyone?), Sheppard confirms that the natives were very friendly. Okay, who are you, and what have you done with John Sheppard? ‘Cause that just came off as a bit … callous, I guess. While he’s not the type to say no, he’s never struck me as the type to go seeking a good time while on duty either.&lt;/i&gt; 

I hadn’t even thought of that when I watched the episode – I just took it for their usual joking around. But you do have a point and if anyone else had complained about it I probably would have dismissed it as being obvious that the complainer just wants to trash John like usual. I do have to wonder how seriously we should take that scene though. This IS Rodney and John and John does like to tease Rodney as much as he can – so is he stringing Rodney along and letting Rodney think what he thinks because he knows Rodney is annoyed by it? Also – was he actually on duty? For all we know his “duty” was to do the supply run but then he actually really did have few days off. Or maybe the writers just thought it would be funny without really considering how it would sound when it actually came out of John’s mouth. Still it’s a good point and something to think about.

As for Larrin – well I still like her. However, I have a feeling that the only reason I “like” her is because other people didn’t. As in I’m getting defensive of her because no one else seemed to, which is hilarious when you consider my reaction to Chaya. Though I think with Chaya I ended up being defensive of John because of the people who were bashing him after that episode so I blamed Chaya for everything. Then again Chaya was lying, as did Vala constantly which is why I never liked her much. So that’s probably it too – I like Larrin because she never lied.  Her methods may have sucked, and she may have been a bit dumb in some ways, but she never lied. It probably also helped that I was oblivious to the “sexual tension” for much of the episode (up until the almost kiss). There’s a reason why I never pay much attention to “subtext” people talk about when they ship various characters (slash or het). I honestly don’t see it until it hits me in the face… 

In an effort to keep this short I’ll just say I loved your comments as usual. Waiting for what you think of Tabula Rasa. I thought it was awesome and I also ended up being a little protective of Rodney/Katie. 

Don’t know if you’ve seen my blog yet but I went a little nuts last week after hearing about the renewal and just wanting to express my love for Atlantis. I got the layout and colors looking more like Atlantis with the greens and reds and changed the name of the blog. Then added a bunch of links to various Atlantis sites. I also added links to your reviews (I hope you don’t mind or think it was weird…) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! You’re back! I didn’t realize how much I depend on your reviews until I had to wait for this one. I think your reviews keep me “grounded” when it comes to how I view the episodes. I’m over in my blog being all excited over how awesome stuff is (even an episode like Travelers which wasn’t actually that awesome &#8211; though I still like it well enough), and you’re here writing up really awesome comprehensive reviews that are fair to everyone and hitting the highlights while also pointing out trouble spots.  </p>
<p>Take for example your comments about the opening teaser: <i>“Rodney makes the observation that John has never volunteered for a supply run for any of the other science stations they’ve set up, adding that this particular planet happens to be a tropical paradise, home to a primitive tribe with few social inhibitions. Munching away on an apple (Garden of Eden, anyone?), Sheppard confirms that the natives were very friendly. Okay, who are you, and what have you done with John Sheppard? ‘Cause that just came off as a bit … callous, I guess. While he’s not the type to say no, he’s never struck me as the type to go seeking a good time while on duty either.</i> </p>
<p>I hadn’t even thought of that when I watched the episode – I just took it for their usual joking around. But you do have a point and if anyone else had complained about it I probably would have dismissed it as being obvious that the complainer just wants to trash John like usual. I do have to wonder how seriously we should take that scene though. This IS Rodney and John and John does like to tease Rodney as much as he can – so is he stringing Rodney along and letting Rodney think what he thinks because he knows Rodney is annoyed by it? Also – was he actually on duty? For all we know his “duty” was to do the supply run but then he actually really did have few days off. Or maybe the writers just thought it would be funny without really considering how it would sound when it actually came out of John’s mouth. Still it’s a good point and something to think about.</p>
<p>As for Larrin – well I still like her. However, I have a feeling that the only reason I “like” her is because other people didn’t. As in I’m getting defensive of her because no one else seemed to, which is hilarious when you consider my reaction to Chaya. Though I think with Chaya I ended up being defensive of John because of the people who were bashing him after that episode so I blamed Chaya for everything. Then again Chaya was lying, as did Vala constantly which is why I never liked her much. So that’s probably it too – I like Larrin because she never lied.  Her methods may have sucked, and she may have been a bit dumb in some ways, but she never lied. It probably also helped that I was oblivious to the “sexual tension” for much of the episode (up until the almost kiss). There’s a reason why I never pay much attention to “subtext” people talk about when they ship various characters (slash or het). I honestly don’t see it until it hits me in the face… </p>
<p>In an effort to keep this short I’ll just say I loved your comments as usual. Waiting for what you think of Tabula Rasa. I thought it was awesome and I also ended up being a little protective of Rodney/Katie. </p>
<p>Don’t know if you’ve seen my blog yet but I went a little nuts last week after hearing about the renewal and just wanting to express my love for Atlantis. I got the layout and colors looking more like Atlantis with the greens and reds and changed the name of the blog. Then added a bunch of links to various Atlantis sites. I also added links to your reviews (I hope you don’t mind or think it was weird…) .</p>
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