Comments on: Presidential Geek Survey Diary – Day 61 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/ "Is this testing whether I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard?" - Rachel, Blade Runner Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:17:08 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: AmateurScientist http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/comment-page-1/#comment-3603 AmateurScientist Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:46:50 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/#comment-3603 Correction. Instead of Shah, I should have said Ayatollah. And the state religion of Iran is Shi'a Islam. Such a shining light of freedom. Correction. Instead of Shah, I should have said Ayatollah. And the state religion of Iran is Shi’a Islam. Such a shining light of freedom.

]]> By: AmateurScientist http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/comment-page-1/#comment-3602 AmateurScientist Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:44:51 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/#comment-3602 The Shah of Iran has supreme power over the country, mandated for life. So much for Democracy. And the elected president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, aside from belonging to an apocalyptic sect of Islam and being one of the terrorists who took American hostages thirty years ago, has detained and tortured several supposed agitators both foreign and domestic. What a reasonable-sounding person. The war is a failure, but it has nothing to do with genocide. The real tragedy here is that Saddam wasn't taken out during Desert Storm. Instead, we left him in power to commit the genocide of which you accuse Bush. Don't forget, it was Saddam who gassed the secular, democratic Kurds, and it was he who murdered them with attack helicopters with Bush Sr.'s permission. Bush Jr. tried to set up a puppet "democracy" in the new Iraq and failed. Thus, my accusation of mismanagement. It's a failure not of the military, which has done its job, but of the concept of Realpolitik, which has proven itself cynical and counterproductive. Realpolitik is why we supported Saddam in the first place. At the very least, we should make an effort to clean up our own mess. We may very well have to pull our military out of the country, but to suggest we should completely abandon the Iraqi people to local warlords and theocrats is shameful. The Shah of Iran has supreme power over the country, mandated for life. So much for Democracy. And the elected president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, aside from belonging to an apocalyptic sect of Islam and being one of the terrorists who took American hostages thirty years ago, has detained and tortured several supposed agitators both foreign and domestic. What a reasonable-sounding person.

The war is a failure, but it has nothing to do with genocide. The real tragedy here is that Saddam wasn’t taken out during Desert Storm. Instead, we left him in power to commit the genocide of which you accuse Bush. Don’t forget, it was Saddam who gassed the secular, democratic Kurds, and it was he who murdered them with attack helicopters with Bush Sr.’s permission.

Bush Jr. tried to set up a puppet “democracy” in the new Iraq and failed. Thus, my accusation of mismanagement. It’s a failure not of the military, which has done its job, but of the concept of Realpolitik, which has proven itself cynical and counterproductive. Realpolitik is why we supported Saddam in the first place. At the very least, we should make an effort to clean up our own mess.

We may very well have to pull our military out of the country, but to suggest we should completely abandon the Iraqi people to local warlords and theocrats is shameful.

]]> By: jake? http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/comment-page-1/#comment-3598 jake? Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:16:41 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/#comment-3598 it's funny that you single out iran when they are the most democratic country in the middle east. the president and the people are much in a state like we are with Bush. the way bush keeps egging them on just makes them polarize behind their president. the war is not mismanaged, it is a complete failure from beginning to end, whenever that end is to come. there is no chance to win because it is already lost so stop the murdering of soldiers and Iraqis with our pointless occupation. if we ever get to a point that bush would be able to call it a win, that point would be when the entire population of Iraq was exterminated in a complete genocide. Iraqis are the ones fighting us so to win means wiping out their full population! it’s funny that you single out iran when they are the most democratic country in the middle east. the president and the people are much in a state like we are with Bush. the way bush keeps egging them on just makes them polarize behind their president.

the war is not mismanaged, it is a complete failure from beginning to end, whenever that end is to come. there is no chance to win because it is already lost so stop the murdering of soldiers and Iraqis with our pointless occupation. if we ever get to a point that bush would be able to call it a win, that point would be when the entire population of Iraq was exterminated in a complete genocide. Iraqis are the ones fighting us so to win means wiping out their full population!

]]> By: AmateurScientist http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/comment-page-1/#comment-3510 AmateurScientist Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:31:50 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/#comment-3510 I fail to see the wisdom in voting for a man who, on this very same program last night, suggested pulling our military out of Iraq completely and seeking the help of Iran and Syria in securing Iraq as a sovereign nation. I respect Gravel's record, but this kind of talk is at best applause-baiting and at worst asinine. The problems in Iraq come not from the presence of our military, but from the mismanagement of the war. And I can think of no worse mismanagement than to invite a tyrannical, theocratic state like Iran to come in and pick up the pieces of our own mess--leaving the freethinking people of Iraq and Kurdistan to the murderous, fanatical whim of Jihadists. Instead of throwing all your eggs into a presidential basket, why not "send a message" by not re-electing members of Congress who are on the take from businesses big or small, and then consider voting for a presidential candidate who understands the complexities of foreign policy in the Middle East? I fail to see the wisdom in voting for a man who, on this very same program last night, suggested pulling our military out of Iraq completely and seeking the help of Iran and Syria in securing Iraq as a sovereign nation. I respect Gravel’s record, but this kind of talk is at best applause-baiting and at worst asinine. The problems in Iraq come not from the presence of our military, but from the mismanagement of the war. And I can think of no worse mismanagement than to invite a tyrannical, theocratic state like Iran to come in and pick up the pieces of our own mess–leaving the freethinking people of Iraq and Kurdistan to the murderous, fanatical whim of Jihadists. Instead of throwing all your eggs into a presidential basket, why not “send a message” by not re-electing members of Congress who are on the take from businesses big or small, and then consider voting for a presidential candidate who understands the complexities of foreign policy in the Middle East?

]]> By: Shawn http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/comment-page-1/#comment-3507 Shawn Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:50:36 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/#comment-3507 Mike Gravel will be President only if he is nominated by the Democratic party, and he will be nominated only if *you the reader* register Democrat and vote for him in the primary. Most people don't vote in the primaries, so Mike can stage a coup with your support. Imagine the message we'll be sending to the politicians and big business, that we're waking up and our minds are no longer for sale! Mike Gravel will be President only if he is nominated by the Democratic party, and he will be nominated only if *you the reader* register Democrat and vote for him in the primary.

Most people don’t vote in the primaries, so Mike can stage a coup with your support. Imagine the message we’ll be sending to the politicians and big business, that we’re waking up and our minds are no longer for sale!

]]> By: University Update - Barack Obama - Presidential Geek Survey Diary - Day 61 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/comment-page-1/#comment-3505 University Update - Barack Obama - Presidential Geek Survey Diary - Day 61 Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:15:55 +0000 http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/09/01/presidential-geek-survey-diary-day-61/#comment-3505 [...] Clark Presidential Geek Survey Diary - Day 61 » This Summary is from an article posted at Pink Raygun - News, Reviews and Interviews for Fangirls [...] [...] Clark Presidential Geek Survey Diary – Day 61 » This Summary is from an article posted at Pink Raygun – News, Reviews and Interviews for Fangirls [...]

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