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	<title>Comments on: Ask an Amateur Scientist: Skeptical Answers</title>
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		<title>By: Hoobajoobah</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/07/19/ask-an-amateur-scientist-skeptical-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-14269</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoobajoobah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry being so damn late to the party, but I only recently discovered all these old entries.  I would take exception with only one thing that you said, which is that there is no *contemporary* mention of Jesus. Flavius Josephus mentions Jesus several times in his &quot;Antiquities of the Jews&quot; which was published about 92 AD, IIRC. Josephus is really the only world-class historian of his generation, and was a Jew who grew up in Judea in the years not far removed from the time of Christ.  His career as a historian for the Emperors (Vespasian, then Vespasian&#039;s idiot son Titus, the George W. Bush of his day) lasted about 30 years, and he began publishing about 30 years after Jesus. So there you&#039;ve got a solid first-century publication date from a reputable source talking about Jesus. Granted, it&#039;s 60 years after the fact, but that&#039;s still pretty contemporary, and it&#039;s a secular source. More to the point, Josephus even mentions Jesus&#039; kid brother, &quot;James,&quot; as well as Jesus&#039; cousin, &quot;John the Baptist.&quot; 

Secondly, I&#039;d submit the Apostle Paul. I know, I know, you&#039;re gonna&#039; say &quot;You can&#039;t use the bible to prove itself.&quot; I agree, and I&#039;m not going to. While the Gospels are all definitely pseudopigraphical works from the 2nd century AD, no one really doubts that the St. Paul&#039;s epistles really were written in the 40s/50s AD. Most of them stand up to historical scrutiny, excepting 1st &amp; 2nd Timothy and Titus, which are obvious 2nd century forgeries. So we&#039;ve got Paul talking about Jesus&#039; death, and he admits that he, personally, never met Jesus, but he does mention several run-ins with Jesus&#039; brother James again. 

Neither of these are first-hand proof, I&#039;ll admit, but they&#039;re both pretty contemporary. Now, as to wether He was the Son of God or not, and what that even means, that&#039;s an entirely different matter.  But pretty much everything else you said was on the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry being so damn late to the party, but I only recently discovered all these old entries.  I would take exception with only one thing that you said, which is that there is no *contemporary* mention of Jesus. Flavius Josephus mentions Jesus several times in his &#8220;Antiquities of the Jews&#8221; which was published about 92 AD, IIRC. Josephus is really the only world-class historian of his generation, and was a Jew who grew up in Judea in the years not far removed from the time of Christ.  His career as a historian for the Emperors (Vespasian, then Vespasian&#8217;s idiot son Titus, the George W. Bush of his day) lasted about 30 years, and he began publishing about 30 years after Jesus. So there you&#8217;ve got a solid first-century publication date from a reputable source talking about Jesus. Granted, it&#8217;s 60 years after the fact, but that&#8217;s still pretty contemporary, and it&#8217;s a secular source. More to the point, Josephus even mentions Jesus&#8217; kid brother, &#8220;James,&#8221; as well as Jesus&#8217; cousin, &#8220;John the Baptist.&#8221; </p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;d submit the Apostle Paul. I know, I know, you&#8217;re gonna&#8217; say &#8220;You can&#8217;t use the bible to prove itself.&#8221; I agree, and I&#8217;m not going to. While the Gospels are all definitely pseudopigraphical works from the 2nd century AD, no one really doubts that the St. Paul&#8217;s epistles really were written in the 40s/50s AD. Most of them stand up to <a title="historical" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/historical/">historical</a> scrutiny, excepting 1st &amp; 2nd Timothy and Titus, which are obvious 2nd century forgeries. So we&#8217;ve got Paul talking about Jesus&#8217; death, and he admits that he, personally, never met Jesus, but he does mention several run-ins with Jesus&#8217; brother James again. </p>
<p>Neither of these are first-hand proof, I&#8217;ll admit, but they&#8217;re both pretty contemporary. Now, as to wether He was the Son of God or not, and what that even means, that&#8217;s an entirely different matter.  But pretty much everything else you said was on the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Peacock</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/07/19/ask-an-amateur-scientist-skeptical-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-3319</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Peacock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If God created bananas just for us, why do they make us constipated?

Answer:  God is a jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If God created bananas just for us, why do they make us constipated?</p>
<p>Answer:  God is a jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: Furikku</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/07/19/ask-an-amateur-scientist-skeptical-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2995</link>
		<dc:creator>Furikku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;16 Isn&#039;t it somewhat arrogant to suggest that countless churches and people (including men like Abraham Lincoln) are all radically in error in their view of the Bible? &quot;

YEAH GALILEO, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TOTALLY NOT WRONG ABOUT THAT EARTH-CENTRIC SOLAR SYSTEM MODEL, YOU JERK!  &gt;:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;16 Isn&#8217;t it somewhat arrogant to suggest that countless churches and people (including men like Abraham Lincoln) are all radically in error in their view of the Bible? &#8221;</p>
<p>YEAH GALILEO, THE <a title="CATHOLIC CHURCH" href="http://www.pinkraygun.com/tag/catholic-church/">CATHOLIC CHURCH</a> IS TOTALLY NOT WRONG ABOUT THAT EARTH-CENTRIC SOLAR SYSTEM MODEL, YOU JERK!  &gt;:(</p>
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		<title>By: AmateurScientist</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkraygun.com/2007/07/19/ask-an-amateur-scientist-skeptical-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2994</link>
		<dc:creator>AmateurScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could anyone not love Jesus as his one and only savior?  Save for Satan, of course, as he is the Ethan Rayne to Jesus&#039; Rupert Giles.  Or is it the other way around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could anyone not love Jesus as his one and only savior?  Save for Satan, of course, as he is the Ethan Rayne to Jesus&#8217; Rupert Giles.  Or is it the other way around?</p>
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		<title>By: mercutiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>mercutiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait....so you&#039;re telling me that Robert Heinlein wasn&#039;t a good, God fearing Christian.  With all those references to the Q&#039;uran and mentions of the Prophet, how could he not love Jesus as his one and only savior?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;.so you&#8217;re telling me that Robert Heinlein wasn&#8217;t a good, God fearing Christian.  With all those references to the Q&#8217;uran and mentions of the Prophet, how could he not love Jesus as his one and only savior?</p>
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